<p>^^^^ That is one of the most horrible things I’ve ever read here.</p>
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<p>In China and other totalitarian regimes where they run down their citizens with tanks for speaking out. You know if free speech offends you, feel free to move to Cuba. It is not far away.</p>
<p>Everyone has to die. You, me, all of us. Doesn’t mean someone is a good person because they get cancer and die.</p>
<p>She was an awful human being. So was he. They deserved each other.</p>
<p>I certainly don’t like him and I was even critical of the fact that she supported a run for president, knowing the skeletons in his closet. But the two of them went through more tragedy in a short amount of time than I hope you or anyone here ever know. It’s the kind of misery that affects people profoundly. She has acknowledged all this herself, which is admirable. To say you are not sorry to see her gone, well there’s no other word for it but disgusting.</p>
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<p>So is your point that if someone goes through tragedy they are a good person?</p>
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<p>AGAIN, since this is so hard for you to understand, I think she is an awful person and so I am not sorry to see her gone. Just because someone is born, their kid gets run over by a car and then they get cancer and die doesn’t make them a good person. Lots of bad people have children who die. Lots of bad people get cancer and die. We all will die someday, and it has nothing to do with whether we are are good or bad people, get it?</p>
<p>She and her husband were/are greedy, power hungry attention seekers. Good riddance.</p>
<p>Sounds like you have never experienced tragedy in your life and are impressed by it because someone else has. I think someone like you who laments the passing of an awful person is disgusting.</p>
<p>Atacom (post 102):</p>
<p>You are entitled to your opinion. However, you have mischaracterized and judged the opinions of many others here. </p>
<p>People do not think Elizabeth Edwards is good because she happened to die of cancer. </p>
<p>Many, including myself, admire her for a myriad of reasons, whether she had died of cancer or some other cause. </p>
<p>Here are some…</p>
<p>First, she was someone who advocated for worthy causes such as universal health care and gay marriage. </p>
<p>Second many admire how she faced several adversities and trials and tribulations with such grace and resiliency. She suffered what is unfathomable to most mothers…the loss of a child, tragically. While she suffered, she moved forward to do good things. She went on to have more children as well. She also had to handle a devastating disease and the way in which she dealt with it has been inspiring to other afflicted with this terrible disease. She also had to weather her husband’s infidelity in such a public fashion. </p>
<p>She published two books that became best-sellers (obviously for a reason!)</p>
<p>She was a loyal wife who supported and advised her husband on politics. </p>
<p>She was a doting mother to four children over a long period of time. </p>
<p>She became an activist for women’s health and cancer issues/patients, when she could have just wallowed in her own woe. She tried to make a difference. </p>
<p>She lived by believing in hope and that is an inspiring message. </p>
<p>She had to endure many painful events, all in a pubic fashion, which would do many people in, but she seemed to rise above it. </p>
<p>She tried to have a positive impact on the world and I believe she achieved that when many do not.</p>
<p>Atacom re: 104…</p>
<p>In my view, no matter what you think of a person, good or bad, it is hard to fathom rejoicing in someone’s death as you seem to be doing …“good riddance” comments and all. Seems so tasteless. Nobody said you had to like EE. There are many people I do not admire or like but I would never wish them ill will or be glad about their passing. Never.</p>
<p>soozie - we obviously see this chick differently. Everything you mentioned confirms my feelings about her - what she did, she did out of a need for money, power and attention. </p>
<p>You are trying to characterize some of her money making, power seeking and attention getting acts as altruistic when they weren’t. She was an activist for cancer? Well, yeah, she HAD cancer. How is that altruistic?</p>
<p>I didn’t find her graceful at all. If you do, fine, we just have different defintions of graceful, then. These are opinions, not facts.</p>
<p>Atacom, what is the opposite of “not sorry to see her go”? Wouldn’t it be glad to see her go? Sounds so to me. That is my point. I am never glad to hear anyone has died.</p>
<p>By the way, many of the things I mentioned had nothing to do with seeking money. She had plenty of money without doing any of these things.</p>
<p>Atacom, while you are entitled to your opinions about Elizabeth Edwards, this thread is truly meant to be a way of memorializing her for those who wish to. So, it seems in poor taste to post such thoughts as you have on a thread meant to honor this woman. It would be like attending a funeral and getting up and speaking ill will of the deceased. Not the place.</p>
<p>I did not know about Westboro Baptist’s plan until just now. I am just so disgusted. Please, can’t they have any respect? Whatever their issue was with Mrs. Edwards, she was a human being and she is leaving behind a family and friends who are grieving and they should not have to deal with Westboro.</p>
<p>Please, let’s honor the intentions of this thread. If I didn’t care for someone IRL, I would not attend a prayer service or any service honoring them. Let’s use the same discretion on this forum and respect the sorrow others feel at losing someone they admired.</p>
<p>^^^Exactly, thank you, worknprogress2. I have no problem if someone doesn’t care for the deceased person, but it seems out of place on a memorial thread, just like it would be at a service, to state such attacks of the departed.</p>
<p>I have been off my computer for half a day and this thread has taken a disturbing tone. I cannot imagine the good riddance sentiment. Politics aside just leave it alone. Really.</p>
<p>Here is a new article on CNN today in the US NEWS SECTION about the planned protest at Elizabeth Edwards’ funeral:</p>
<p>[Westboro</a> Baptist Church says it will picket Elizabeth Edwards’ funeral - CNN.com](<a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/09/kansas.edwards.picket/index.html]Westboro”>Westboro Baptist Church says it will picket Elizabeth Edwards' funeral - CNN.com)</p>
<p>I particularly liked the comment at the end by Albert Snyder, the father of the slain serviceman who sued Westboro Baptist Church for defamation and invasion of privacy after they protested at his son’s funeral and posted an online “manifesto” (similar in style to the one about EE) defaming the Snyders, and he said: </p>
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<p>Indeed, every person deserves to be buried and memorialized with dignity at their funeral. I feel the same about a memorial thread. Comments attacking a deceased person really have no place in such a context and should be kept privately.</p>
<p>soozievt- agree with your post above. A memorial/funeral - I believe - is for the surviving family. Out of respect for her 3 children, it seems in good taste to remain positive. There have been and will be in the future plenty of chances to debate her decisions/her reactions to circumstances. EE - RIP</p>
<p>Atacom, I see that I am the second person today to report a post from you for rudeness. The other one was on a different thread. </p>
<p>As for speaking ill of the dead… If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. (And certainly don’t post on a thread memorializing that person.)</p>
<p>Really? What are we, grade schoolers? If you say something I don’t like, I’m going to tell the teacher on you?</p>
<p>I feel terribly for Elizabeth Edwards children, and feel that she was dealt an awful hand with that loser of a husband and cancer. But come on, can’t we just be adults here and if you don’t like someone’s point of view, say so?</p>
<p>Atacom - take your “chick” statements elsewhere. You’re underlying sexism isn’t appreciated let alone your disrespectful attitude. Just as the Westboro self centered people are not welcome at EE funeral, your tone isn’t welcome on this thread.</p>
<p>I have always thought that the younger children were conceived using donor eggs, roshke. The Edwards made only vague statements about unspecified fertility treatments, but I agree that there are no fertility treatments that will produce viable ova in a 50-year old woman. It is no one’s business how the children were conceived, and I’m sure they were protecting the privacy of the children, as well, by being discreet about this subject. </p>
<p>I hate to engage with the offensive statements that have been made in this thread, but Elizabeth Edwards’ public statements on cancer usually acknowledged that the access she had to the best possible care was not available to most people. This fit with her longstanding commitment to universal health care. Had things gone differently, she probably would have had a policy position in the Obama administration. He hinted as much before her husband’s s**t hit the fan.</p>