Method to Appeal

Colleges & Universities The University of Texas at Austin
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<p>Hey, I got rejected from UT Austin a couple of day ago. I was wondering if there is anyway i can appeal this decision. here are my stats</p>

<p>Courses: (Full IB Diploma)
IB Higher Level Economics
IB Higher Level Physics
IB Higher Level Mathematics
IB Standard Level English
IB Standard Level Indonesian
IB Standard Level Chemisty</p>

<p>AP Calc AB: 5
SATS 1: 2060
SATS 2: 740 (Physics), 800 (Math IIC)
ACTS: 30
GPA: 3.70 Weighted</p>

<p>ECs:
National Honours Society (Treasurer)
Model United Nations (11th-12th Grade)
Cultural Convention (11th-12th Grade)
Internship at Standard Chartered Bank Jakarta (11th Grade)
Natural Helper (11th - 12th Grade)
Singapore National Cricket Team (9th-10th Grade)
School Cricket Team Captain (9th-10th Grade)
School Student Government (9th-10th Grade)
Minister of Finance in Mock Parliment (11th Grade)</p>

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<p>Great stats! You can always appeal, but if your question is whether you should invest a lot of emotion in a successful outcome, I’m afraid the answer is a simple “no.” </p>

<p>You appear to be an international student living abroad, which means there are very few open slots for admission available to you. The current freshman class is composed of 208 international students, of which 140 actually came from Texas (international kids residing in and attending high school in Texas), so only 58 international students were from outside of Texas, whether residing in another US state or abroad. In my opinion, considering early indicators as to the impact of the legislature’s Top 10% Rule on the current admissions cycle, it’s safe to predict the number of “truly” international students accepted for admission into the 2009 freshman class will not be appreciably greater…and could very well be less…than last year.</p>

<p>See this report for the numbers:
<a href=“http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/HB588-Report11.pdf[/url]”>http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/HB588-Report11.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>i hope you applied elsewhere because you deserve to go to a good college…</p>

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<p>I did apply elsewhere. I have been accepted in Babson College and Bentley University. But I really wanted to go to UT Austin simply because the McCombs School of Business is really good. I am unclear on what I should do. I still have this urge to appeal. Are you aware of the procedure?</p>

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<p>mccombs business school is the most competitive…did you get rejected to the business or to the general studies too?</p>

<p>i would suggest you go to one of those other colleges and take courses similar to those you would be taking at UT and then apply for transfer as soon as you can!</p>

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<p>I had to use the Ask a Question function on the UT Admissions website to come up with this statement on Appeals. Because it’s a query response, the URL won’t duplicate.</p>

<p>Quick Answer
Undergraduate Admission</p>

<p>To appeal a decision, you must submit a letter (we do not consider e-mail appeals) stating why you feel the admission decision should be contested. Include any new information that is pertinent to your academic file including explanations of hardships you endured, resumes, or an explanation of circumstances beyond your control that you feel may have affected your admission decision. </p>

<p>To be considered for an appeal, you must provide new information that was not previously included with your admissions application.</p>

<p>U.S. undergraduates should mail appeal letters to: </p>

<p>The University of Texas at Austin
Office of Admissions/Appeals
P.O. Box 8058
Austin, TX 78713-8058 </p>

<p>Or fax your letter to 512-475-7478. </p>

<p>International undergraduates should mail appeal letters to:</p>

<p>The University of Texas at Austin
GIAC Office of Admissions/Appeals
P.O. Box 7608
Austin, TX 78713-7608</p>

<p>Or fax your letter to 512-475-7395</p>

<p>Waiting Lists</p>

<p>The University of Texas at Austin maintains no admissions waiting lists for undergraduate applicants. </p>

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<p>Ditto what the other poster said about how tough it is to get into McCombs. If you specified another choice and were denied that one, too, definitely appeal as to both, i.e., as broadly as possible, because once you are in the door, you can work hard and apply for transfer to McCombs.</p>

<p>Good luck. You are a great candidate for many schools.</p>

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<p>The only way they will appeal their decision is if something extremely significant changes in your application( i.e. rank going up 10 percentage points or SAT going up 200 points). My friend had about a 2050, and his rank went up like 3%, and they rejected him twice. Your not even going to have a chance to win an appeal if you want to get into the Business school with those stats.</p>

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<p>Correction:</p>

<p>Note that the stuff I cut/paste from UT’s website about appeals contained a final line that I didn’t notice re: “no wait list.” Obviously, that information is NOT correct, as UT is running a wait list this year.</p>

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<p>To the OP: Your stats are good but NOT THAT GOOD. Don’t waste your time!</p>

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<p>@ goldtx: Are you serious? Was your comment really necessary? Get off CC now.</p>

<p>Although your GPA could look a bit better, the IB diploma should’ve made up for it…I’m not sure. However, I’m sure you’ll get into a fine school. Don’t let people like goldtx affect your goals. Good luck.</p>

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<p>haldir… of course I’m serious! And why should I get off CC just because you didn’t like my candid assessment?</p>

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<p>Well, goldtx, just because you have 1st Amendment rights doesn’t mean you have to exercise them unkindly.</p>

<p>I’m a proud UT alum. If you have any connection to UT, please Hook 'Em! nicely.</p>

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<p>I said his/her stats are not that good to expect a favorable appeal decision. What’s wrong with that? We all know UT has very few spots for OOS and internationals so unless he/she has some new information to strengthen his/her application, I’d say again “don’t waste your time!”. Wake up and face the harsh reality of college admissions!</p>

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<p>Look at my post #2 and compare to your post #9. Just sayin’.</p>

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<p>haldir, the IB diploma just does not mean that much in admissions at Texas, if anything at all. The only academic criteria they look at usually are SAT scores and class rank.</p>

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<p>TXArtemis, I did read your post #2 before writing my “harsh” comment. I wrote it that way on purpose. I found that some people believed they’re too good to get denied when the reality is that they are just “average” in the eyes of the college admissions. Many of these people entered the state of denial when they learned that they had been rejected. I wanted to wake them up and help them realize that college admissions are a tough game and can be extremely competitive.</p>

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<p>This semester so far, my GPA has improved even further, bringing the whole thing up from 3.7 to 3.77, do you think I can base my appeal on that?</p>

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<p>It can’t hurt to try, but I don’t think it would be successful.
If you’ve attended mainstream Singaporean and Indonesian schools, you may try to argue that the courses are graded much more difficultly than those in the United States and that your average doesn’t reflect your ability, but you must remember that international admissions is extremely difficult and even students with good grades and test scores and great ECs will be turned down.</p>

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<p>I attended a main stream Singaporean School, it was the 2nd best school in Singapore and in Jakarta, I am attending Jakarta International School which does have an american system but still grades with much more difficulty. </p>

<p>I think I am going to wait for my other results to come out, hopefully there will be another college I get accepted into besides Babson/Bentley.</p>

<p>Thank you so much for your help guys, really appreciate it.</p>

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<p>Just to clarify about the IB diploma, it does mean something for non-Top 10%, OOS and international admissions. Once any school goes to holistic mode (vs. auto admit based on certain criteria, e.g., top 10% rank), everything beyond statistical grades/rank and test scores comes into play. IB is a significant validator of the “rigor” of the curriculum, which puts the grades/rank into context. When an ad com sees a 3.7 GPA from a high school that is not immediately familiar to him/her, one task presented is to evaluate what that 3.7 GPA represents. If the transcript reveals a “standard” courseload, that 3.7 isn’t all that impressive. If the transcript is heavy with AP courses, that is an indicator of greater rigor and makes the 3.7 look solid. If the coursework has been completed within an IB program, that is another flag for rigor, and many would argue, in fact, that the IB program carries the most weight in terms of rigor. It is quite a prestigious academic system and known to be very challenging.</p>