<p>Cat got your tongues or just afraid to give the Bush admin credit for anything?</p>
<p><a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/terrorism_investigation;_ylt=AtVvttVMlFVb2oGxa.1XXRkTv5UB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl[/url]”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/terrorism_investigation;_ylt=AtVvttVMlFVb2oGxa.1XXRkTv5UB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl</a></p>
<p>How do home-grown terrorist cells come about in the first place anyway?</p>
<p>Anyone remember the 60s…</p>
<p>Credit for what? Good old-fashioned police work? Didn’t see any mention of phone tapping or torturous interrogations, the Bush weapons of choice.</p>
<p>And isn’t it interesting about the cat your your tongue comment</p>
<p>It is terrible that our soldiers were tortured and then killed after being kidnapped…cause we don’t have a leg to stand on with regards to tprture</p>
<p>And, if you read the articles, it was the informant who helped these guys move ahead with their project</p>
<p>I am glad it was busted up, but flashback to the 60s and the college protest groups- often it was the FBI informants who got everyone all riled up…</p>
<p>We shall see</p>
<p>Didn’t you see the footage of the bust? Cheney brought his hunting gear and was one of the first ones to burst through the door. Bush flew in later in a fighter jet for the photo-op.</p>
<p>Its a wonder we’re able to arrest anyone for this stuff given that the NYTimes and other reporters are out there ferreting out and reporting every tactic we’re attempting to use to prevent the next sneak attack by some other group of evil people. </p>
<p>With our newspapers and other media performing the counterintelligence roles for the enemy, it’ll be amazing if we’re able to catch anyone of consequence. One can hope they usually are reporting disinformation, but I fear not.</p>
<p>Anyway, I’m sure Ramsey Clark will soon be on the scene.</p>
<p>Aye, mate. Can’t we all just calm down and be glad that this was foiled? Sears Tower still graces the Chicago skyline. Illonois is spared the pain that NY and DC experienced on 9/11. We are no longer in 2000, when terrror cells operated in this country with impunity. </p>
<p>Catching them is better than not catching them… so a big YAY and cheers for the police and investigative work!</p>
<p>The NYT is doing us no favors. Some investigation is needed.</p>
<p>NPR guy- “they were just thinking about it” “is that really a crime”</p>
<p>Sheeesh.</p>
<p>These were home grown terrorists…your Timothy McVeigh types, not your Mohamed Atta, so let’s not thank the tactics of the “War on Terror”: surveillence, spying, NSA, yadayada.</p>
<p>Goes to show we have to “fight them here” not just “there”.</p>
<p>Goes to show we have to “fight them here” not just “there”.</p>
<p>I totally agree. Thus the need for domestic surveillance.</p>
<p>Barrons, I know that was a rhetorical question, but the answer is, “Yes, it is a crime.” Conspiracy itself is a crime. If they were all individually thinking about it, without consulting each other, then no; however, when more people than are necessary for the perpetration of the act collaborate to commit a crime, that collaboration is, in itself, a crime.</p>
<p>Yes, my thinking was of course it’s a bad crime. To even suggest as the NPR guy did that it was not such a big deal was absurd.</p>
<p>terror cell?
The guys look like a bunch of wannabe losers, living in a warehouse and doing calisthenics at night, hoping to hook up with someone who can give them some leadership, money, and weapons.
Phew. I really feel safer now.</p>
<p>Timothy McVeigh was a loser hanging with other losers, too, but look what he did. One doesn’t necessarily have to be bright to get lucky and I, for one, am glad that they won’t have another chance to get lucky.</p>
<p>Of course he was a loser. The point is that here we are, mired in a $300Billion war, when we have our own homegrown terrorists to worry about, with designs about blowing up the Sear’s Tower. </p>
<p>Seems the rhetoric about fighting terrorism over “there” so we don’t have to do it "here’ is just that: rhetoric. Words.</p>
<p>Some people are never satisfied. The “shoe bomber” looked like a doofus too but came very close to taking out a plane full of people.
I guess they have to be wearing those scary masks and carrying an AK-47 and a sword to be legit.</p>
<p>"Of course he was a loser. The point is that here we are, mired in a $300Billion war, when we have our own homegrown terrorists to worry about, with designs about blowing up the Sear’s Tower. </p>
<p>Seems the rhetoric about fighting terrorism over “there” so we don’t have to do it “here’ is just that: rhetoric. Words”</p>
<p>I disagree. We can fight the societal misfits here and, as you say, it’s not so tough, but I really don’t want the professional or state-sponsored terrorists here.</p>
<p>“I guess they have to be wearing those scary masks and carrying an AK-47 and a sword to be legit.”</p>
<p>I don’t think so. Wasn’t the LAX shooter something similar to that? Many of our friends still pretend that he wasn’t an Islamofascist terrorist.</p>