<p>I really do believe in second chances, but Michael Vick and my beloved Philadelphia Eagles??? This does not make me happy. I guess a psychologist could hook this into all the issues Andy Reid has with his sons…</p>
<p>It was going to be some team somewhere. Some fans will be happy some upset.</p>
<p>I’m not happy. I think it’s going to be another debacle like the last one with T.O. Best just to root for the Phillies and try not to think too much about the Eagles for now.</p>
<p>It seems strange to me that the same people who are up in arms about Michael Vick for dogfighting are willing to quickly forgive someone for domestic violence. In Philadelphia, for example, we have the case of Brett Myers, who beat up his wife on a public street. But all was forgiven after he went to counseling. And (outside Philly), let’s not even talk about the great god Ray Lewis.</p>
<p>I’m hoping MV gets mauled by a pack of pit bulls. The man killed dogs. With his own hands. It’s disgusting.</p>
<p>Just watched Tony Dungy on CNN. That man is all class. Hopefully he can continue to give Vick the guidance needed.</p>
<p>MOWC - you hit the nail on the head, all around. Perhaps I will now become a Raven’s fan.
BTW - I thought Brett Myers should have been fired.</p>
<p>Hopefully he has learned something from all of this. But if he hasn’t, perhaps a can of Alpo hitting him in the head would teach him (not that I’m advocating violence).</p>
<p>“Perhaps I will now become a Raven’s fan.”</p>
<p>And root hard for Ray Lewis. Just to remind you.</p>
<p><a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Lewis_(football_player[/url])”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Lewis_(football_player)</a></p>
<p>Perhaps Obama will award him the Medal of Freedom, just like Teddy Kennedy.</p>
<p>There’s that. but I live between the two. suppose I could be a Steeler’s fan and I always liked Big Ben but then there’s that little “sexual assault” accusation.
then again maybe signing Vick means the Eagles will win the Super Bowl and I should remain loyal.</p>
<p>People, get over it. </p>
<p>He did the crime, he did the time. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I find this attitude way too prevalent when people talk about ex-cons. Like how dare he be allowed to make a living? Vick is certainly in the spotlight with his $1.6 million plus contract. But now think how tough it is for the average ex-con without Vick’s skills or money to have to face the same attitude that some here have expressed–the revulsion, disgust and ridicule. </p>
<p>I think its an ugly, vidictive attitude no matter who’s involved. With very few exceptions–like maybe a child molester wanting to teach kindergarten–everybody needs and deserves the chance to make a living after they’ve paid for their crimes. Beting up (metaphorically) on an ex-con isn’t the way to help any of them. </p>
<p>I don’t even like football all that much, but I’m hoping that the man, given a chance, will redeem himself and put all the nasty comments to rest.</p>
<p>With respect to Big Ben, my (admittedly not entirely informed) impression is that it appears that the encounter was consensual.</p>
<p>Michael Pacelle of The Humane Society of the United States:</p>
<p>“He said this experience has been a trauma and he’s changed forever. And he said he wants to show the American public that he is committed to helping combat this problem. He asked for an opportunity to help. I want to give him that opportunity. If he makes the most of it, and demonstrates a sincere, long-term commitment to the task, then it may prove to be a tipping point in our campaign to eradicate dogfighting. If he demonstrates a fleeting or superficial interest, then it will be his own failing, not ours. Our campaign will march forward regardless. It’s up to him, and we at The HSUS reserve judgment until he demonstrates that he’s part of the solution rather than a further part of the problem.”</p>
<p>“Maybe if there had been an intervention program in Newport News 15 years ago, a young Michael Vick would have grown to love and respect pit bulls, and he would not have done these terrible things to dogs. For me, it’s not about Michael Vick and providing endless punitive treatment. It’s about stopping other young people from going down the road Vick took. It’s about having kids today put down their break sticks and destroy their pit bull treadmills.” (Emphasis Added)</p>
<p>i really don’t understand why people have such a hard time giving criminals a second chance. He’s making significant strides in the right direction with counseling. He’ll probably do even greater things once he’s gotten on his feet again. The media has beaten this man to death. At the very least, he deserves a chance to redeem himself. I’m willing to bet that many of his detractors will hop on the Vick bandwagon once he throws a couple touchdown passes. That’s just the kind of world we live in lol.</p>
<p>I’m not punishing Vick or providing endless punitive treatment, and I don’t think other posters here are either. I didn’t like Michael Vick before the dogfighting business came about and I’m not going to like him now. He’ll have to live with what he did. I’m simply exercising my right to be repulsed by what he did. If that makes my attitude ugly and vindictive, so be it. I can live with it. I hope he’s learned from his mistake and if his involvement with HSUS does result in an end to dogfighting and the abuse of these animals, so much the better.</p>
<p>^^^not here. He did his time?? Wow. Certainly not much time for the ugly, vicious killing of dogs.</p>
<p>He did more time than most NFL players have done for beating up their wives or for illegal use of guns, things I view as more serious. </p>
<p>If you dont want to support the Eagles, then I suggest you be consistent and not support any NFL teams. </p>
<p>I love dogs, but I am more concerned about spousal and date abuse.</p>
<p>You can hate him for whatever reason you want, I guess. I have had many dogs and I love them. I won’t defend his actions although I see his punishment as harsher than usual from the system and from the media. I’m happy that someone higher up sees a guy trying to make the right decisions and is willing to give him the chance. It doesn’t make sense to kick a guy when he’s already down and done his time.</p>
<p>Here’s what my son had to say about this when I told him about the fact that Vick would earn 5 MILLION in the next 2 years (more than he and I combined in our lifetimes):
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<p>I disagree with it not being pretty. Again I ask isn’t this a country where after someone does his time he can start over. It is not as if he was not punished. Again I aske for those without sin to cast the first stone. Is there anyone here who doesnt know some kid from their kids HS who has a youthful offense the parents have managed to get sealed?</p>
<p>I agree I wouldnt want this guy working at a child care facility, but what is the danger with him playing ball. He will be under close scrutiny. </p>
<p>Didnt Johnny Cash go to jail for a felony and came out and people bought his records?</p>