Mickey Mouse security hysteria over air travel? Is this the new normal?

TSA is not unknown to make mistakes. Like, being completely to find bombs during test runs. My best guess is that someone in this group had a name similar to someone on the “no fly” list. And, good luck trying to find out the actual reason.

Agree wholeheartedly w @anomander that expensive trips w a lot of complicated parts (9 children!) is a reason travel insurance exists.

When I’ve booked tickets online on some low budget carriers, I’ve had to deliberately toggle off the option for buying travel insurance.

"Facebook page linked to Taliban and Al Qaeda was registered to same address as British Muslim father whose Disneyland trip was blocked by Homeland Security "

: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3371472/David-Cameron-look-Muslim-family-banned-visiting-

The Facebook page supporting Taliban has been linked to the man’s home address. The denial of entry to this country should now be a non issue.

I would not call it a “non issue” since the address can have multiple users, but there is enough to refute any allegations of religious prejudice.

Since I have not a clue the full extent of the reasons, I will not even speculate. However, there is no right to travel the US or to cross our borders into the country; it is privilege that can be extended or not. Therefore, not sure how civil liberties become part of the equation.

I doubt that travel insurance would cover this situation.

Most travel insurance covers any situation where your trip is interrupted - illness, having to work, death in family. It usually does cover if you can’t get a visa when you need one.

As others said, he has no expectations of right to enter our country, just like we have no right to ‘demand’ entry into another country, even another country we are friendly with.

Just read that Missouri is the latest state to have its driver’s licenses and ID cards declared not in compliance with Fed rules and regs. While those residents can travel by car to other states, they may soon lose the right to travel by air without some acceptable form of ID. We have to have some standards or why have the rules and checkpoints at all?

I carry a Swiss army knife on my key ring, a small one which is nonetheless deemed an unacceptable threat to national security. Several years ago, I took a trip which required me to go through security four separate times. The knife wasn’t detected until the 4th time. So no, I have little faith in TSA to protect us from real threats. Nor given the tenor of the times, do I have much faith in our ability to separate real threats from people who look threatening.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html. @GMTplus7 were you kidding or had you actually read that the teenaged kid had been looking at terrorist websites, ease according to this article, that is correct!

I was kidding/guessing. But even a broken clock is right twice a day. :stuck_out_tongue:

You think the father is yelling at his kid now?

As a moderate Republican I wouldn’t be so quick to say I want people in need falling through the cracks.

I think the first story is vague enough to get people outraged. We have no idea what we don’t know.

In the second story a small amount of people won’t have the option for the pat down. We have no idea who this small group is and how it’s determined. I think many recent studies show airport security does nothing for deterring terrorists. I have tsa precheck but for some reason on every flight at least one way I’m pulled out for extra screening. I can’t raise my right arm in the naked scanner so I have to get the pat down. I know now they don’t pat down all that much and I could easily hide something on me and make it through security. If they “made” me go in the scanner I would probably miss my flight.

Agh, iPad autocorrect! It was supposed to say “because” according to the article, you were right.

Oh @gmtplus7 I read too quickly. This was a brother’s kid, 2 years ago, refused entry to Israel… But not sure if that’s why the visas were revoked

I suspect the entire family was not banned, just the one man. But it sounds better for him to say his family was banned. I’ll have to reserve judgment until we know the reason why.

Actually, bus driver, that’s what I read in one place, that only one hot his visa revoked. But elsewhere it said they all got their visas revoked. Who knows.

Visas are not needed for short visits for English citizens to visit the USA.

Still entry can be denied.

The articles said their visas were revoked. Maybe they planned to stay for a longer time than a simple Disney visit?

Or they were not British citizens. Depending on the country of their origin, US permanent residents need visas to visit some European countries while US citizens do not need visas.

A coincidence?? Really??
And one of the wives was going to stay back, and apparently has since traveled to Pakistan.