High school. These are not high school students. By law (including Supreme Court decisions!), high school students have fewer free speech protection rights than those past high school.
And Oberlin got smacked down pretty hard for its speech code in the recent past—I think they learned to police students’ speech with a very, very light hand as a result of that fight.
Basically, trying to pin this on Oberlin simply doesn’t work.
The boyfriend of D’s private college roommate was fond of making anti-Semitic remarks. The university made him move off campus, as his behavior was not conducive to the well-being of the school community. So yeah, a college can definitely do something if a student starts posting racial or ethnic diatribes on a blog with the name of the college on it.
“My point is that it’s lame for a white male to talk about how awful it is to be insulted when white males have been riding high in this country from the beginning, and have fought hard (including a civil war) to maintain that power.”
What limited, slanted view of reality. A lot of white males, including some of my own ancestors, died in that civil war wearing blue uniforms. What gender was voting when the 19th amendment became law?
If what has been yielded and ceded ends up being used to destroy the foundations and the spirit of what has led to these good reforms, perhaps things can snap back.
Yes, your ancestors died preserving state’s rights – to own slaves. Own it. It’s ok, you’re no different from anybody else – all of our (collective) ancestors likely did bad things of some sort; we don’t need to automatically think our ancestors are worth honoring simply because they are our ancestors.
We can argue the pros and cons of war and conquest until we’re blue in the face; there are positive and negative aspects to it, as there are with almost any substantial topic.
To continue combating bigotry and discrimination, what we must continue doing is teaching our kids, in the home and in school (and other public gathering places), to be good to others and respect them; in other words, to follow the Golden Rule. There will always be psychological deviants who cannot really be helped and who will continue being disruptive, but if everyone else would practice concepts like respect, kindness, honesty and empathy, we’d be much better to each other.
Adding a spirit of hard work and perseverance to the observance of the Golden Rule would arm kids for success with friends and family, in school, and vocationally.
Aggressors of all races and creeds must learn to respect, and act respectfully toward, others; and those who overreact should be challenged to calm down a bit to avoid blowing unintentional slights out of proportion.
What will always bring friction is that we are human and so very different in how we view the world, ourselves, and one another. But teaching and living the Golden Rule, with the willingness to work hard, is a pretty decent recipe for improving both how we think of ourselves and how we treat each other… our psychological and philosophical differences notwithstanding.
Well, that’s true. A lot of white males support affirmative action, too, as well we should. But come on, doesn’t it seem a bit much for white males to think that they are the real victims these days? I think we’re still awfully far from any such thing.
Hunt, I don’t know. How do you what “white males” think? At most, one can only know what one person states as his or her opinion. And that’s just one person’s opinion.
White males can be victims of rudeness, incivility, insults and harassment the same as anyone else can. That is all I gleaned from the OP interchange. I did not interpret it as the white male conveying that he was being made the victim of racial oppression or anything like that. Are you are saying that white males are lame if they bring even those types of slights against them to light?