<p>idk, but i’ve HEARD that being a minority is like a benefit, especially for USMA.</p>
<p>is this true?</p>
<p>i’m sure the SAT scores, extra currics, nominations, etc. are all important, but is the “minority status” thing an extra boost?</p>
<p>i doubt it.
just asking.</p>
<p>thanks :)</p>
<p>yes, it is.</p>
<p>sure you can get that past DODMERB?</p>
<p>dont worry bro, i’m a mullato. Yeah, it’ll help you, but not that much. I mean- don’t expect any special treatment or whutnot. i’m sure they got quotas to fill.</p>
<p>Its like that in every college in the nation. Get used to it.</p>
<p>It didn’t help my son.</p>
<p>If your a triple qualified candidate, you’ll have an advantage.</p>
<p>WCS. Look it up.
If you are “super” academically you’ll have an advantage. If you excel physically you’ll have an advantage.</p>
<p>If you apply somewhere and don’t “get in” pick any reason you want–it’s as good as any other.</p>
<p>“It didn’t help my son.”</p>
<p>just cause your son is a minority and didn’t get in doesnt mean that affirmative action wasn’t considered for him.</p>
<p>thats like saying the only reason ADAitfliesitdies got in to usma was because of affirmative action.</p>
<p>I don’t think anyone can go to West Point who isn’t triple qualified. Most people get knocked out for one reason or another. I mean I have heard children of Medal of Honor winners have a unique advantage, I think its almost a given that they will be accepted (and if not, it should be)</p>
<p>i think that as long as MoH kids are qualified, they get in.</p>
<p>Taffy, the point I am trying to make is that being a minority doesn’t guarantee admission, you need to be fully qualified. My son was triple qualified and still didn’t make it into West Point. I believe that he didn’t get any preferential treatment, he was treated like any other candidate. People seem to have the attitude that if you are a minority you automatically get a job, get into college etc. I am saying that just isn’t true. I guarantee there are people admitted into West Point who don’t have the credentials my son has. We don’t have sour grapes because he didn’t get in but please don’t think that the minority sitting next to you in class doesn’t have credentials above and beyond yours.</p>
<p>When I think of affirmative action I think its an odd sort of struggle. One side, you have everyone saying that its unfair to predetermine that one race should have bonus points for being part of that race, but the other side is, and this is the truth anywhere you go. Most people are still partial, whether they say it or not, to the white preppy kid.</p>
<p>Statistically 86% who attend USMA are public school graduates, 13% minority, </p>
<p>Only 60% public school at USNA, 14% minority</p>
<p>Air Force wins with 34% minorities though.
USMMA only has 10% minorities, 70% public</p>
<p>If you think about the image in your mind or the picture in most catalogues (they are trying to change this), its the white guy in full dress. Over time this will change as this is part of the battle that isn’t over as many people would claim. </p>
<p>Comparatively 84% public at FSU, and 17% minority.
For good measure, harvard, 65% public, and 58% minority, stanford at 59%. </p>
<p>According to these rankings either West Point is behind in the equality game, or these colleges place much more importance on race, (or its possible less qualified minorities are interested in West Point).</p>
<p>Its always a tough decision when it comes to sensitive issues such as this. I think West Point does as an ample job of choosing qualified candidates. Honestly, in my opinion, these numbers should not even be tabulated as I personally think it should be merit alone, but until individuals preconceived notions are removed, we need to use different methods to counteract those notions.</p>
<p>The application should not even ask what your race is.</p>
<p>No matter what race is brought into the equation. Be it your name or the fact you have to go for an interview, race will be introduced into the process. There is also one more reason race is brought into the application process. While there are many viewpoints on this, there is some evidence that individuals perform poorly of certain races because they are in a poor neighborhood with a poor family and poor education system. Theoretically by allowing these underprivaleged individuals into a school, you are allowing individuals that have just as much potential as students in a more developed community and thus, may perform just as well.</p>
<p>The very things we do to attempt to make all races equal are the very things which fortify the propogation of inequality. If all people are equal, and I believe they are, then why not treat them as such? Why should blacks or hispanics or indians, who are just as capable as whites, be given a boost?</p>
<p>And the reason that Harvard, Standford, et. have such large minority numbers is because they have taken minority recruiting to the extreme. It’s not the opposite problem. Instead of it being hard for minorities to get in, it’s now hard to whites to get into those universities.</p>
<p>I wasn’t born thinking people of different races were different. However, this society has gone out of its way, with Black History months, Black Entertainment Television, Affirmative Action, to make people think there are differences.</p>
<p>We are all equal. Treat us as such.</p>
<p>TacticalNuke, honestly, I do agree with you. But you can’t not have “Black History month” Can you imagine the outrage… Well I don’t know how to handle the problem, but I believe in good time everything with racism and what not will smooth out. We have moved leaps and bonds and just look around you and you will see America is becomming culturally diverse will individuals from all over the world (instead of just Western Europe…) and they are becomming successful and competent workers in our society. </p>
<p>One last thing, although all men should be given equal opportunity to succeed in excel, it is a mistake to say “we are all equal.” Look around you and you will see we are not “equal” in any respect. I’m not speaking white/black or rich/poor, I am saying that no two individuals will be equal in any respect except maybe that we are all “equally human,” but I suppose oneday that may even come into question (there are so many odd places you could take that…but I’d rather not elaborate). Anyhow, the fact we have classrankings and GPAs, SATs, networths, and everything else in this world should be testimoney to the inequalities that exist. They are not bad, they are the very reason capitalism works as we strive to be better than we are and rise above. Communism is based on that precept of absolute equality which can never be, at least in a world ruled over by man (or woman).</p>
<p>didn’t help me…i was the only asian prep outta the aog preps…let alone the only sponsored asian prep out of about 50 preps.</p>