Missing Malaysian Plane--2 aboard with stolen passports

<p>The hair headbands or hair clippers made with ivory or other hard material of the flight attendants are also dangerous. :-* </p>

<p>Some of those “big hair” do’s can be dangerous all by themselves!</p>

<p>I sure am hoping they have been investigating some of the most obvious possibilities here. Like a multiple electrical bus failure, and consequent depressurization. In my airplane, for example, transponder 1 is powered off of the AC Emergency bus, and transponder 2 is powered off the AC Bus 2. The bus fails, you lose the transponder. You have to manually switch over to the other transponder, and it may not be obvious to do so. Especially when you’re worried about all the other things you lost. I wonder if the ACARS and one of the transponders are on the same bus on the 777. Multiple bus failures and things get pretty complicated, sometimes no particular procedures for emergencies that happen. Everything goes dark, at night in the cockpit, brand new copilot first flight out of training, things go haywire, and I can see a loss of aircraft control. Who knows if the capt was even in the cockpit, or if he’d gone to the restroom.</p>

<p>It just annoys me to hear the “experts” say these things must have manually been turned off, as opposed to failed. That someone must have been flying it for several hours, as opposed to them making the first turn (intentionally or not, or alternate flight plan activated). They are making so many assumptions.</p>

<p>I thought it was reported that the transponder & ACARS were turned off at different times, and that’s why the “experts” were deducing it was deliberate.</p>

<p>There were other circumstances that indicated deliberate evasiveness. Too much of a coincidence that the transponder went off then plane turned around right between Malaysia & Vietnam airspace. Also when plane headed back it was following an established corridor-- not a random path. Plane was being flown in a rational manner. </p>

<p>Investigators also puzzled that no cellphone calls. On 9/11, UA 93 px and AA77 px were aware of the emergency and made cellphone calls. Were MH370 px unaware or all incapacitated? Slowly bleed out the cabin pressure & everyone goes to sleep then dies from hypoxia. Cypriot Airlines 522 crashed when crew was incapacitated by drop in cabin pressure. </p>

<p>I think it was suicide. If it was hijacking or terrorism, then why no demands or claims of responsibility? If it was piracy, then why fly to the most desolate part of the Indian Ocean where there are no landing strips?</p>

<p>I’d like to know more actual facts, because I think some of what has been said in the news are assumptions. I thought I read that they stopped reading the transponder at one point (it may not be relevant that is was near a handoff, there are a number of different handoffs during such a long flight), and that the ACARS didn’t make its next scheduled report. In a multiple bus failure, not everything would fail at the same time. I wonder, if they could just take out the assumptions that this was intentional, what could it look like? I’m sure accident investigators are going through every option. And as far as an established corridor, I would like to see the exact path. Did it fly directly over specific navaids and turn towards the next one, or was it just close? Was this another “expert” claiming this? Was it all approximately in the same direction, or twists and turns directly towards the navaid. At some point did it not go towards a navaid? I just can’t believe anything they say anymore.</p>

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I’m still not convinced the plane did fly to south Indian Ocean. There is no proof that is the direction they took, unless you want to believe everything the Malayasian government tells us, and based on their track record, they could contradict what they have said in the past at any time now.</p>

<p>It’s not the inept Malaysian gov’t that is concluding the plane took the southern path. It is the UK gov’t & inmarsat.</p>

<p>Inmarsat applied doppler analysis to frequency of the ping data and was able to eliminate the northern route. The analysis was peer reviewed.</p>

<p>In Silk Air 185 & Egypt Air 990 crashes, investigators recovered the black boxes & were able to determine cause of crash was pilot suicide. That’s why I think thr plane was deliberately headed to a remote place w very rough & very deep water.</p>

<p>But if you were going to commit suicide and try to cover it, why turn and fly over navaids, when you know that can be tracked and looks planned? Why not just do it on short final in the blink of an eye? I would think there are plenty of remote places far closer.</p>

<p>Actually, I can answer my own question. Pride. No professional pilot would want anyone to think that an accident was their fault. With all the investigation afterwards, nobody would want anything blamed on them. Pilots have large egos.</p>

<p>Perhaps the pilot was afraid he was going to be outed as gay, as the friend/political candidate he knew was. And the pilot went to the trial of his friend, who was jailed for the offense, the same day he flew the plane out, if I remember correctly. That might be a motive for suicide.</p>

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Don’t I know it…</p>

<p>It’s not like it’s a bad thing…you don’t want someone flying who has no confidence, and thinks they can’t handle something. You want someone who will never give up, no matter what. There’s a positive spin to it.</p>

<p>There is also the pilot’s wife and 3 kids moving out the day before the fatal flight. Somehow, I wonder how that weighs in the subsequent events. That could be a cause to be pretty depressed. </p>

<p>So many mysteries in this tragedy.
Although I think “Malaysian authorities” is an oxymoron.</p>

<p>I’m sure families of the deceased are more inclined to think of them as simply MORONS! Sad how things have been so botched. H says his experience in travels there is that there is a TON of incompetence in the administration.</p>

<p>Frankly what could the Malaysian government do to save the passengers? It was too late. They did not have high tech equipment. They did not have resource. Even if they knew the location of the crash they still would not be able to rescue them.</p>

<p>@coolwater, the MY gov’t may not have been able to save the px, but through its incompetence & evasiveness, it made an awful situation even worse. This is what happens when you have a half century of corrupt one-party rule that imposes racial apartheid and suppression of the press: inept people w no sense of accountability get put in positions of leadership.
<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?;

<p>The MY military saw the unidentified plane on its radar and ignored it. And the gov’t didn’t bother for nearly a week to tell the search vessels & planes in the Gulf of Thailand that the plane had flown in the opposite direction. What an obscene, deliberate waste of time & resources.</p>

<p>Then every mid-level Malaysian tom, dick & harry tried to get face-time in front of press, giving conflicting information, then retracting it later. Malaysia Airlines getting the police to drag off the distraught family member was unbelievable. When the Chinese gov’t is accusing another country of ‘lack of transparency’, you know things are bad.</p>

<p>The plane crashed more than 2 weeks ago in rough waters w strong currents. The wreckage has likely drifted hundreds of miles, while the clock is ticking for finding the black boxes before they stop pinging…</p>

<p>The Chinese government should be blamed for the failure of locating MH370. They waged war with every country in Southeast Asia and Japan to gain maritime control. They’s why the Asian countries did not want to share military information with China.</p>

<p>During the typhoon disaster months last year, big China only donated $100,000 to the Philippines while other smaller countries donated millions and other resources.</p>

<p>You can see how friendly is China to other Asian countries here:</p>

<p><a href=“Chinese daily accuses Manila of ingratitude over US$100,000 typhoon donation | South China Morning Post”>Chinese daily accuses Manila of ingratitude over US$100,000 typhoon donation | South China Morning Post;

<p>Ikea, a private business donated 2.7 millions.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/14/typhoon-haiyan-china-aid-philippines-ikea[/url]”>http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/14/typhoon-haiyan-china-aid-philippines-ikea&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>^That’s quite likely. From what I hear countries in the region are not trusting each other. Is what thye did any worse than what GM was holding back about their ignition issue? In Malaysian case, at least there’s no more lives to be lost. I don’t see why people get so worked up here when they don’t seem enraged by GM.</p>

<p>Re: international relations in the area</p>

<p>Relations between the various countries are clouded by various territorial disputes:
<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>China’s claim seems to be particularly annoying to other countries in the area:
<a href=“Nine-dash line - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dotted_line&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;