MIT 2024 Discussion Forum

I got deferred from Caltech, but accepted to MIT! :slight_smile:

Here are my stats and some stuff from my application for those interested:

Academics & Background
Background: Male, Chinese American from a California Charter school
UWGPA: 4.0, WGPA: 4.3670 (valedictorian, or salutatorian if you include people who transferred in)
SAT: 740 R/W, 800 Math, 20/24 Essay
SAT Subjects: 800 on Math 2, Chinese, Physics, and Chemistry
APs: Chinese (5), World History (5), Calc BC & AB subscore(5), Comp Sci A (5), US History (5), Capstone Seminar (4), English Literature (3), Statistics (5), Chemistry (5)
College Classes/Online Classes: Elementary Statistics, Multivariable Calculus, Analytic Combinatorics, Linear Algebra, Introduction to Differential Equations, Threat of Nuclear Terrorism

4 Activities:

  • Boy Scouts (Life Scout, Senior Patrol Leader for over a year)
  • Math Club (Founder and President, I create lessons and handouts and teach interesting topics at meetings, such as number theory and geometry. I’m also the founder and coach of my school’s middle school section’s MATHCOUNTS team and this year I’m adding in our school’s ARML team)
  • Web Design Club (Cofounder and Copresident, I teach members how to make websites with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript and encourage club participation at Hackathons. Our main goal in this club is redesigning our school website, which should be done by mid-January)
  • Varsity Volleyball (I played on my school’s Varsity Volleyball team in junior year as the Middle Blocker)

Work Experience: Mathnasium Instructor (I’ve been working as a Mathnasium instructor since junior year, where I tutor elementary through high school students in math).

Summer Experiences: I spent most of my summers traveling, visiting family, and volunteering. During the summer after junior year I started doing math research with a professor.

Nonscholastic Distinctions: Life Scout (11th grade), Breakthrough Junior Challenge top 10% (11th grade), WINK Leader (10th, 12th grade), Voted most likely to wake up early on a weekend (10th grade), Senior Patrol Leader (11th, 12th grade)

Scholastic Distinctions: 2018 Fall OMO 36th Place (11th grade), National AP Scholar (11th grade), AIME Qualifier (10th, 11th grade), 3rd place in SrcHacks Hackathon (11th grade), 1st place in schoolwide Essay Contest (12th grade)

AMC 10 score: 120, AMC 12 score: 100.5
AIME Scores: 5 (2018), 10 (2019)

Essays:

  • For the activity you do simply for the pleasure of it, I wrote about solving puzzles and riddles in my free time.
  • For the essay about what MIT program appeals to me, I wrote about the development of my passion for both computer science and mathematics and how MIT’s 18C program will allow me to continue exploring both subjects.
  • For contribution to community, I wrote about my experience tutoring in freshman year and how my passion for it motivated me to start math club and later work as a tutor.
  • For the world I come from, I wrote about being Chinese American and having very different traditions/experiences at home compared to at school and how being in such a diverse mix of environments has fostered my acceptance and appreciation for diversity.
  • For something that didn’t go to plan, I wrote about running for ASB in my freshman year and how I was disqualified from a miscommunication. I dealt with that by accepting the failure and learning from it and seeking alternatives. I ended up applying for my school’s WINK Program instead and was accepted in and since then I’ve come to enjoy that much more than ASB.

Letters of Rec:
Math teacher/club adviser: 10/10 (I feel like this was by far my best letter of recommendation. I had seen his evaluation sheet for another school before MIT and I was amazed by how positive and well-written his evaluation for me was. He also sent me a note after submitting his that it was the best one he’s ever written)
Spanish Teacher: 8/10 (My Spanish teacher’s always been really encouraging and helpful to my learning of Spanish and in general. He’s very open to giving me advice in life and everything)
Counselor: 9/10 (Even though I’ve only known my counselor for 4 months when she wrote her LoR, I’ve been one of her favorite students and she knows me really well for my passion for STEM from the awards I’ve won)

Additional Information: I included a link to my Quora account, where I’ve been posting advice and help on math, science, and standardized testing questions for over 2 years. I also attached my video submission for the Breakthrough Junior Challenge which I was super proud of.

Maker’s Portfolio: I submitted a Maker’s Portfolio containing a 3D graphing calculator program I made while taking Multivariable Calculus. It could plot 3D functions and tangent planes in a rotatable 3D space, and calculate partial derivatives, multiple integrals and surface integrals.

General Advice: Not every school’s going to be a perfect fit for you. Personally I felt a strong connection with MIT as I learned about their student culture through their blogs and YouTube channel throughout high school, and as I went through their application process. I felt that their application flowed very nicely with my overall interests and experience in high school and their essays were extremely easy to write for me because many of them fit into my ideals (such as contributing to my community and having something to do purely for the fun of it).
You should strive to get into schools you feel a deep connection to, not just for prestige, and you should really bring out this connection through the essays.

DD is in, both MIT and Caltech. the lady interviewer said in five years, among all the students she interviewed, DD is the only one admitted. This should be a great motivation for her to continue. LOL

@wbzdnnbzdw congratulations! Can you send one of those 2 admissions to my DS?
:slight_smile:

Very sad right now. Bad day. Deferred from both MIT and Caltech. I had a feeling I was going to be deferred, but it still sucks when it happens. :’(

Decision: Deferred

Objective:
ACT: 36 on everything, one sitting sophomore year
SAT II: 800 Math II, 800 Chemistry, 800 Physics, 800 Biology M, 800 Chinese
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
Weighted GPA: n/a
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): n/a
AP: Human Geo (5), World History (5), Calc BC (5), Lang (5), Chem (5), Bio (5), Physics C: Mechanics (5), Physics C: EM (5), Lit (5), Stats (5)
Senior Year Course Load: Multivariable Calc, AP Comp Sci A, AP Chinese, AP Macro, AP Micro, APUSH, AP US Gov
Major Awards: USNCO finalist, bunch of Science Olympiad medals (including golds) from state and invitationals, MTNA Senior Piano Competition First Place (it’s like the biggest piano competition in the US not counting the international ones), a bunch of other awards and prizes from a bunch of piano competitions including some international ones, won some solo competitions and played with an orchestra, first place in a capstone project thing at MIT Beaver Works Summer Institute, and National Merit/AP Scholar stuff

Subjective:

Extracurriculars: Math Team (Captain), ARML, Science Olympiad (Captain), Science Bowl (Captain), NHS, Tennis (Varsity since 7th grade), Cross-country running, piano, part of the MN Youth Symphonies Orchestra, Creative Writing (Webnovel got like a quarter million views), Journaling (writing for a STEM magazine led by students), made a doctor-patient diagnostic app for my MIT summer camp which doesn’t really work but is kinda cool
Job/Work Experience: not really anything constant, a bunch of piano gigs
Volunteer/Community service: Music Therapist at Hospital, teach kids in Sunday School at church, 100+ hours from NHS
Summer Activities: Various international piano competitions, camps, and MIT Beaver Works Summer Institute (research camp)
Essays (rating 1-10, details): 8/10, i thought i did good but my mom read them and said they suck

Teacher Rec #1: My Science Olympiad coach, really likes me, 10/10
Teacher Rec #2: My AP World History teacher, knows me well, likes me a lot, 8-9/10
Counselor Rec: My mom lol, 10/10
Additional Rec: My math professor, I was #1 in my class consistently but he didn’t know me that well, 6-7/10
Interview: 6/10, I’d say I was pretty typical. Didn’t ace it nor do terrible.

Other

Applied for Financial Aid?: nope
Intended Major: Electrical Engineering/Computer Science
State (if domestic applicant): Minnesota
School Type: Homeschool
Ethnicity: Asian (Taiwanese)
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: not poor
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): nope

Reflection: I’m sad. I should have grinded more olympiads starting freshman year. Or did more research. But then I wouldn’t have as much time to play piano and stuff. I prolly wouldn’t trade my piano for time to grind olympiads.

Strengths: Not really anything. Test scores? IDK
Weaknesses: Asian male with no particular STEM spike.
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Just not good enough i guess.
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Caltech defer

General Comments: I’m sad.

Don’t be sad @Bobnana ! I know it’s beyond disappointing. I’m a mom of someone who was deferred, and it was a gut punch. To watch our kids be amazing and do incredible things and then get deferred feels wrong, but you, as a deferred applicant, are incredible. Your stats are insane, but you are so much more than those things, and will be happy where you land (which may be MIT, in the end). The piano stuff alone is more than most of us will accomplish in a lifetime. Please don’t be sad. It makes me sad that any kid on here is feeling defeated. A year from now you will be somewhere fantastic, and this disappointment will be but a blip on your screen. ?

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@momcom1 Thank you for your encouraging words! I hope I have better luck with other schools. Hopefully my non-STEM stuff will be more effective in Harvard or Stanford.

Deferred. Not too surprised It was the first application I submitted and was very much a disaster

@Bobnana Are you thinking deferred is rejected in March? I believe the committee pics another several hundred from the deferred pool in March. Low percentage, I know but still hope. Other’s thoughts on deferred?

Last year:
7% admitted in EA, 66% deferred to RD
3% of deferred students are admitted in RD (190/6350)
4.5% admitted from RD only

Those are extremely low percentages at a school that most applicants are self selected (high stats, excellent ECs etc.) So @Lsutbab there is still a chance but really at this point I ll advise any student to move on and concentrate on their realistic choices especially if they are still preparing RD apps.

@bobnana you are amazing. Maybe it is just MIT is not the best fit for you. You will harvest in March. Cheer!

I am sorry to hear it. Your academic record is very strong. I am sure you would go to one of the top colleges. Maybe in Feb next year you will receive a LL from Yale! :slight_smile:

To make you feel better, though not a good way of comfort, I know many boys with international awards or went to the most prestigious summer camps got deferred by MIT as well. I am sure it is just a timing issue. Next year, you all will have a big smile. Trust yourself and write the best essays. Have a cheerful Christmas!

@Bobnana see above

Well… He got deferred at UChicago. LOLWUT?
But of course we already knew EA at UChicago is for hooked applicants only.
The rest must kiss the ring (apply ED). It’s not personal. It’s business.

Congrats on MIT and Caltech! @TheVulcan

Is there anything DS can do besides sending LOCI to improve his chances?

Deferred
OOS (Illinois)
3.9 Unweighted GPA
4.65 Weighted GPA
36 ACT
13 APs
NMSF
Decent Letters/Essays/ECs

I am applying RD and just realized that my STEM teacher has still NOT submitted her recommendation.

The humanities teacher reco and counselor report have been submitted. Now the school is out for winter break and only reopens on Jan 6th.

I have sent another email request to the STEM teacher through the portal and separate reminder email to my teacher, but I am unsure if they will read the email before Jan 6th. Can anyone please advise any experience or tips to save this situation?

As per the below blog from 2016, the school materials may be sent after the deadline. But not sure if this latest for 2020 cycle- any experience or tips are greatly appreciated.

https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/ra-deadline-q-a/

What do you mean by “hooked applicants”?

Plenty of non-URM, non-first generation EA applicants are admitted by UChicago.

Guys, I’m really confused.

First of all, congrats to @TheVulcan and my best wishes for everyone that got deferred.

I am reading the thread as of now, being completely unaware of it for the last few months. I have just submitted my application to MIT a couple of days ago.

I am an international student, in a school that does not use GPA, APs, or anything of this sort, but did my best to show MIT who I am. Is there a way to know if I have a shot? Most of these stats do not apply to me.

(Feeling kinda nervous right now too)

@ZMXNCBVALSKDJFHG, an extensive discussion in the UChicago forum seems to indicate that, with UChicago officially considering demonstrated interest (as indicated in their common data set, which they do not make easily available), unhooked EA applicants (particularly STEM-focused ones that appear to be strong candidates for MIT/Caltech EA) may have to convince the adcom not only that they are a good match, but also that there’s nowhere else other than UChicago that they’d rather be - something most other top schools (that do not consider demonstrated interest) are not generally very concerned about.

Hi friends, my D submitted her application on December 23 and we live in Seattle. She has not received any contact about an alumni interview and I’m hearing they all have to be done by mid to late January. Should we contact MIT to see if they have waived her interview or is the lateness of her app resulting in her not being considered?