<p>they are all no name schools. why split hairs?</p>
<p>freshman1990, thanks for all that. Music scene is actually pretty important and if spin has rated it with the top indie scene than I guess that’s good enough for me. Also, the coffee shop sounds really nice. I don’t mind the cold, I used to live in NJ so I’m used to kind of cold, and I’ve never really preferred the heat. </p>
<p>kb10…they’re not all exactly no name schools…they’re just not ivies or top LAC’s. I’m not some super smart CC kid. But thanks for taking the time to comment.</p>
<p>Of the schools you’ve listed, I’d say Michigan State is the best known. I’ve known a number of very bright and intellectual people who went there, and later went on to law school, graduate programs at places like the University of Chicago, top 10 business schools, etc. It definitely has the big sports scene, if you want that, but it is reportedly diverse enough that you can find other things to do.</p>
<p>Have you considered the Honors Tutorial College at Ohio? I don’t know if it’s possible to apply after freshman year, but it seems like a really outstanding program.</p>
<p>Isn’t Quinnipiac more vocationally-oriented than someone with a serious interest in an academic subject such as history would choose? </p>
<p>You really ought to go to the school websites and check out the history faculty and the course schedule. It’s not uncommon for smaller schools with a vocational/business focus to have minimal offerings in humanities departments, and certainly not what’s needed to prepare someone well for grad school in the subject.</p>
<p>I realize that Loyola Maryland and Quinnipiac are less known off of the east coast, primarily in the north east. I’m not sure on Quinnipiac’s history courses but I know that I do like MSU and OU’s significantly better. It just seems to my family that if I decline my acceptance at Loyola Maryland for a school like OU or MSU they believe I’m “passing up a good opportunity”. My sister’s mainly convinced I’m just trying to rebel against my mom and dad. I just want to find a good school that has good courses on Holocaust studies and WW2 studies, and has a decent history program. If any of these schools have those and you know something about them, please feel free to PM me or write back on this. I’ve been accepted to Loyola College in Maryland, Quinnipiac, and University of Scranton. I’ve applied to, Mich. State, Ohio University, Lake Forest College, Fairfield University, Loyola University Chicago, Stonehill College, University of Vermont, Saint Joseph’s University, and York College of Pennsylvania. Thank you for any of your input</p>
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<p>Where is Saint Joseph’s?</p>
<p>BTW, I looked at Loyola’s history offerings, and they seem to have a strong department with at least 4 or 5 more advanced courses in your area of interest. I would prefer it to Quinnipiac, personally.</p>
<p>^^Philadelphia, Consolation…</p>
<p>I know at OU we have a class on Nazi Germany. I don’t know a lot of the classes, I do know there is one on modern iran, which isn’t what you looking for, but I remember that one cause it sounded pretty interesting. I can ask my friend who is a history major more about it. I know we have a club called the history association, it’s pretty small, but you might like that too.</p>
<p>I was thinking Loyola had a better program than Quinnipiac, so yeah that makes a lot of sense. Freshman1990 it would be awesome if you asked your friend who is a history major more about it, I just want to find out as much as possible about the programs at each school before I make my decision. I also emailed the department chairs at each school I’m seriously contemplating, so hopefully that will help as well. </p>
<p>And yeah, Saint Joe’s is in Philly</p>
<p>Since you are checking out such disparate places as Philadelphia, Boston, Akron and Lansing, something you probably should think about is what it would be like to remain in the city after college. At a smaller place like Akron, you may graduate and leave whereas in a larger city, with more employment opportunities like Philadelphia or Boston, you could put down permanent roots. Both situations have their own respective advantages and disadvantages.</p>
<p>Another consideration is graduate school. With a degree in history, you may want to consider graduate school if you have hopes of utilizing your expertise in your career. A good question for the department administrators at the departments you are interested in would be what percentage of graduates attend grad school.</p>
<p>I’m almost positive I will be going to graduate school, at least I intend to. And yeah, at first I thought I had a very limited area covered with my schools and then I realized it’s really all over the place. I know the pro’s to the schools in CT would be close proximity to NYC and the one in MA would be Boston. Loyola Maryland has Baltimore, and so on. The most small town kind of feel would be mostly MSU, OU, Scranton, and that’s basically it. I wouldn’t mind staying in a small town or the big city, it would depend on job opportunities primarily, and either would work for me. Any other ideas of what I should ask the department heads?</p>
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<p>If you wanted that, you should apply to Temple. I dont know why you would apply to St. Joe’s–there’s like two Jews there and I doubt they have much on the Holocaust. Not to mention the school is a waste of money.</p>
<p>I was going to apply to Temple but my mom didn’t want me in that part of Philly… St. Joe’s was just kind of a “last minute my mom has an obsession with jesuit schools” kind of thing.</p>
<p>belevitt- OU is not near Akron, it is 4 hours away. It is closest to Columbus. </p>
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I just talked to my friend. To quote her, “OU’s history department is F*****G awesome”. She said it is ranked in the top 15 percent of history departments by petersons’s college guide. She said it is also one of the best in the midwest and eastcoast. She did say there specialty is colonial history because of the school background and history. But, it is a bigger school and has a moderity program. She said once you are in it, they offer you a lot of support. She also said they give you lots of research oppertunities and internships. She also said the advisors are great and keep in touch with you well. She is a very positive person and keep in mind that since she is in the program she is going to have a good opinion of it. Also, would you be applying to the honors tutorial program. I’ve heard it is VERY hard to get into, but is a great program.</p>
<p>I live right near St. Joe’s and it’s really not any better. Not surprised that’s why your mom didn’t want you applying, but it’s entirely overblown. We have the fourth largest police force in PA, and the campus itself is VERY safe. Not to mention it’s a better school and better value than St. Joe’s.</p>
<p>I didn’t apply to the honors tutorial program, primarily because it is insanely hard to get into and my stats aren’t THAT good. They’re good, but definitely not that good. But thanks a lot for the insider info on the history department, it helps a whole lot to get it from someone who is actually experiencing it. I also didn’t know that it’s ranked in the top 15 % of history departments by peterson’s college guide, really good to know.</p>
<p>I’ve always under-minded St. Joe’s solely because I know that like 50 kids from my old school always ended up going there, and it was never the smart 50. I know that my mom undoubtedly wants me at a Jesuit school, she even said to me today… “You know what my real problem with OU and MSU is? They’re not catholic, or jesuit” And all I could say to that was like, really? I’ve never been a devout catholic, nor have I ever really defined my self by my religion. So having a religious school is so incredibly far from making or breaking a school for me. Parents really need to keep their opinions to themselves, it’s hindering this entire process.</p>
<p>Sorry, I knew that OU is in Athens, I mistyped. Many apologies to residents of both cities.</p>
<p>Tell your mom that surrounding yourself with people who are exactly like you isn’t how the real world works.</p>
<p>Trust me, I would love to. She’s been brain-washed by the Jesuits.</p>