More trouble at Harvard?

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Well, gee. They’re going after a Black woman who’s part of the DEI staff. I think I’m going to have a heart attack and die of not surprise.

Chris Rufo literally stated, publicly, that this is the playbook to undermine colleges and to paint all accomplished Black people as unqualified diversity hires. I wish we’d all stop falling for it.

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Isnt this the paper that broke the Claudine Gay story?

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Questioning the motives of the accuser doesn’t really address the substance of the allegation.

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For those who believe that “equity” is the enemy of equality (and I count myself among them) the race, gender or ethnicity of the DEI autocrats is irrelevant. That said, their second rate academic work in support of their ideology is still rather amusing.

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lol, i’m sorry, but no one with 40 plagiarism accusations should have a high paying academic job. The only thing we’re “falling for” is a desire to have people judged on their actual merits

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I am trying to understand your response. Should all minority academics get a free pass because anything else is “falling for” unseemly accusers? Does it matter at all if she committed massive fraud, or do you really not care, as it appears?
Do we extend the pass to Hispanics, Asians? Anyone else?
There are well qualified minority women. It is insulting to think we can’t hold them to the same standard of integrity as others.

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Dr. Carol Swain also accused Gay of plagiarizing her work.

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My response is pretty clear: a well=know ideologue announced his intention to attack and demonize DEI programs generally and Black people specifically, and aligned media organizations jumped right on it, hoping to create the exact effect it’s having here: people sharing anonymous allegations as proof of “trouble at Harvard” and asserting that the person in question “committed massive fraud,” without any apparent care for the motivation behind the (possibly specious) attacks.

And for the record, I’m not questioning the motives. Rufo flat-out stated his motives, and he’s backed by a large group of ideologues who have put that same motivation in writing. There’s no need to question the unquestionable.

It isn’t about providing a “pass” for anyone. I just think it’s a bad idea to spread vicious rumors about people, especially when it’s well known that bad actors are targeting them specifically because they’re Black.

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The last time that paper divulged similar information, it turned out to be true. Are you suggesting they violated libel laws now?

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No, it didn’t.

So you don’t think there is a colorable claim that either of the women in question violated academic standards? Remarkable. Have you had a chance to compare the texts in dispute?

Prof. Gay amended her citations, so that is pretty good evidence that she agreed some standard had not been met.

Presumably the two schools will conduct their own inquiries.

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I fell like I could put this on 20 different threads!

Ken Griffin closing checkbook unless there are changes at Harvard. It will be interesting to see where his kids go to college. :wink:

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Have you?

No, that is why there should be inquiries by the schools in question. The casual dismissal of such allegations by you, and initially by Harvard in the Gay case, wasn’t upheld by later facts.

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Griffin’s kids will get in anywhere they want. Other schools are eager for that checkbook.

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I didn’t dismiss them – I didn’t say anything about their substance at all. The only thing I did was point out that a group of ideologues opposed to DEI announced their intention to attack and attempt to discredit Black academics, and that I was therefore not surprised to see (a) that they went ahead and did so, and (b) that an aligned media outlet reported it. I think that’s valuable context to be considered, especially given that the complaint itself is anonymous and it’s being reported by a tabloid.

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Agree.

I basically meant if his kids don’t go to Harvard, then Griffin is really serious. If they do go to Harvard, well, he’s just blowing some smoke.

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Professor Gay attended Exeter. Any work that “needed corrections” would have caused her to be expelled. She had many, many years of rigorous preparation to understand, identify, and know how to avoid “needing to correct” her work.

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The same tabloid that reported accurate allegations about another professor there recently. Yes, that is worthy of reporting.

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