<p>i didnt know Oklahoma had a top 10% law, like the one in Texas…</p>
<p>in Texas if you are top 8% you automatically get accepted to any State funded university in texas…(it just changed from top 10)</p>
<p>Can you name a state where if you are in the top 10% of a high school class that you won’t get into a good state university?</p>
<p>in texas you automatically get in, the point is, most top 10 kids go to UT… which makes it really hard to get into if you are out of the top 10…</p>
<p>i dont know much about school systems outside of texas so i cant comment… but most other states have more than 2 tier 1 schools, which even the auto admits out… like i dont live in Oklahoma, but from what i understand Oklahoma is Texas and Oklahoma State is A&M</p>
<p>like for instance in California they have more than 2 good schools</p>
<p>well I think we can say that if you are in the top 10% of high school students in your school, you are pretty much guaranteed acceptance into a good state university.</p>
<p>If football is a factor, then why don’t more top 10% students go to Oklahoma?</p>
<p>are you referring to TOp 10 kids that live in oklahoma? </p>
<p>Im pretty sure a good amount of Top 10 kids go to OU from Oklahoma… </p>
<p>but if your referring to kids in TExas, Texas is better than OU( an no OOS fees)</p>
<p>i was just looking at OUs site, its pretty easy to get into if you are a resident…</p>
<p>because Texas has a law about the top8%, state universities cant deny the kids / you need great stats to get in</p>
<p>I dunno how to clearly present my argument (I suck at this haha) but I"m pretty sure that your statement that people go to Texas just for football not academics is flawed.</p>
<p>Not everyone in Texas, but at least half of the Auto Admits that go to Texas go because of other reasons beside academics.(mainly football)</p>
<p>To be perfectly honest, most students dont care what tier a school is. They just go to the school they like more…</p>
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<p>So let me get this straight, you think that if a school’s football team starts to slip up, the school will become less popular and subsequently, less selective? Hmm, sucks for Michigan and Notre Dame.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I just randomly applied to schools that I thought might be fun, never once considering the school’s rank and academic reputation.</p>
<p>so you’re saying that if the University Of Houston had a top 10 football team and UT had a team with losing seasons in some obscure conference that even though UT is better academically, more top 10% kids would go to Houston?</p>
<p>@criss</p>
<p>Correct, i dont see their team slipping up anytime soon though… They would still have good ranking though.(academically)</p>
<p>and im sure you picked your schools because you were INTERESTED/LIKED the school. no one goes and says “this school is number 1, i must apply” you had to have liked the school… after all you’ll do more than just work in college</p>
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<p>somewhat, a good portion of top 10 kids would apply…but not 70% like at UT…
remember UT wasnt always the best school in Texas(football) and they werent always in the Big 12(which might be folding) … I think Academics take more time, right now UH has a decent business school and a good law school…and thats about it… their FB program is getting better each year</p>
<p>Their is no reason UT shouldnt have good academics though, its one of the oldest schools in Texas. They’ve been around for along time, and been in Austin since 1881… Thats over 100 years.</p>
<p>Texas will continue to be a great school, but personally i think football/basketball got UT nationally known…</p>
<p>sorry for the bad structure of this post</p>
<p>you might consider me biased, since im going to UH… but i can guarantee this, you will like the school if you ever get a chance to check it out in person.</p>
<p>oh I’m not debating whether University of Houston is a good school or not. It’s an excellent school. I just don’t think it’s at the level of Texas even if it had a good sports program.</p>
<p>i think in the long run, it will be on par with Texas and Texas A&M…Football is just the start imo…</p>
<p>people are expecting UH/TEch to be the next tier 1 schools.</p>
<p>I think the sports got UT the national attention, but they’re not the reason that top 10%-ers go there. They go because it’s auto-admit (don’t have to stress about the competition) and usually much cheaper than similarly ranked schools.</p>
<p>Further expounding on the auto-admit thing–just because you’re in the top 10% of your school doesn’t mean that you’re necessarily a bright student. There’s a high school a few miles away from my alma mater, and their top 10% would probably be closer to our 25-30%… which is why they changed the law. A little.</p>
<p>see the thing is the auto-admit rule/law works for every public school in the state… Auto Admits go everywhere, just a lot go to UT. </p>
<p>yea i get what your saying about some kids not being bright… Apparently the Plano schools are very competitive.</p>
<p>I second the new college of florida. I would have went there had I known about it my senior year instead of wasting my time and money for two years at U Miami. </p>
<p>Luckily, I’m transferring. But I’m still taking out loans. Son of a b****.</p>
<p>I’m from Maryland (and a UMCP student), and I second the guy that said UMBC is the most underrated school here. It’s like the textbook definition of underrated. That, and maybe Towson University.</p>
<p>Pierre0913, you are really underestimating football in TX. People decide between A&M and UT based on which football team they like, not academics (not all the time, probably more than half of the time), and then environment (big city like Austin or middle of nowhere College Station), and then where their friends are going, and then which gives the most money. All state schools in TX are auto-admit if your top 10% though you still have to write an essay and send scores but UT is just the biggest named one with the best football team and most kids are actually surprised to realize it’s such a good research school. So yeah, if UH gets an awesome football team and UT losses their than UH will go up and UT will go down.</p>
<p>(oh, and people in Texas don’t like Oklahomas football team)</p>
<p>lucky2010: I think you’re severely overestimating the importance of football in TX. I went to Southlake Carroll, which, during my heyday from 03-06, was one of the best programs in the nation, if not the best. I’d say that the majority of the kids from my grade that chose UT did so for academic and environment reasons. What school has the best engineering and business programs…UT. What school is located in a fun college town, is relatively inexpensive and has good programs across the board…UT.</p>
<p>While I will concede that most people don’t realize how good the school is, most people are aware that it’s the one of the best schools in Texas, if not the best school.</p>
<p>Hmm, everyone always considers the best school in TX to be Rice. Wasn’t Southlake a really good academic deal also? </p>
<p>Also I’m not saying all, just a really good amount, my school is different, not well known at all but people have this huge A&M v. UT deal.</p>
<p>Around here, A&M, Rice and UT are most often cited as the best schools in Texas. Naturally, one’s bias will influence which school they think is the best. While I like Rice and almost went there, I think that UT, as a whole, is better than Rice.</p>
<p>SLC was one of the top public school districts in Texas when I went there, but they’ve since slipped a little bit. </p>
<p>The thing is, I’m guessing that football sways the decision more on poor students than good students because good students will have more available options and as a result, they will spend more time researching their options to try to find the best fit. I think this might explain my assertion that the students here go to UT more for academic/environment reasons than the ones at your school.</p>