<p>“…Btw, has anyone watched old movies or movies set in old time periods and people smoke inside buildings? It already smells gross if smoking’s done outside and it looks stuffy inside the buildings too. I can’t even imagine how it smells in those rooms and yet it looks like it was done often in the past.”</p>
<p>From a student on another thread about cigarette smoking…no real reason for posting…maybe a new millenium post?</p>
<p>Those movies make you realize how things have changed since we were kids. Filmmakers had to come up with substitutes for the role a cigarrete played back then- no added “glamour” setting the tone… I wonder if today’s sex and violence are better or worse than the smoking found in movies? Shrinkrap- any ideas given yor field? </p>
<p>I also took time to remember our youthful bar scene New Year’s Eves of decades past- don’t miss the smoke one bit. Smoke free venues may get us going out again. It is so nice to be in smoke free hotels. The current college students may never have to experience avoiding hotel lobbies for the smell or needing to request a nonsmoking room… Or have the “no smoking” section of a restaurant be a table away. Remember flying in planes with smokers in the back?</p>
<p>Yes i remember when people could smoke in the back of the plane. I also remember commuting on the tubes and busses in London back when smoking was allowed. My underwear would even smell like smoke when I got home. I think it took the terrible Kings Cross underground fire for them to ban smoking on the tube.</p>
<p>I remember smoking in the hospital emergency room, as a resident! </p>
<p>“Filmmakers had to come up with substitutes for the role a cigarette played back then- no added “glamor” setting the tone… I wonder if today’s sex and violence are better or worse than the smoking found in movies? Shrinkrap- any ideas given your field?”</p>
<p>Actually, I had not thought of it like that. Seeing people smoke on television in the sixties and seventies did not really seem mean anything to me. Maybe one day sex and violence will mean violence will not mean anything. Maybe the woman smoking in “old” black and white movies meant being “sketchy”, like wearing pants! And I hear it’s used to that effect in that current show about advertising ( Madmen?).</p>
<p>I remember smoking in the hospital as a patient! That was in 1970. We smoked in class in college, as well as on airplanes, in restaurants, in grocery stores – you name it! It seems so odd now, looking back on it.</p>
<p>I’m glad I quit, but I still miss it…</p>
<p>If you go back to the 50s, pretty much everyone smoked everywhere. You never noticed any smell because you were never anywhere that didn’t have the smell.</p>
<p>It wasn’t until we started having smoke-free areas that I started realizing there WAS a smell.</p>
<p>Just reminded me of going to the obstetrician in Egypt when I was pregnant with my son (now 23). He puffed on a smelly cigarette (love;y when you are suffering from morning sickness) and asked my husband questions instead of me. I am not sure which was the most off putting - I didn’t go back to him.</p>
<p>Oh and I remember going to a dentist when we first moved back to the US - he was kind enough to see me as an emergency visit when I broke a tooth - but his hands stank and tasted of cigarette smoke. ugh. That was just 21 years ago. I guess he wasn’t wearing gloves either. Another change in the times.</p>
<p>“movies set in old time periods” - I really am getting old :eek:</p>
<p>^ I think that’s what i was responding to…“old time periods”…was it the seventies? Is that the last time we saw smoking on television?</p>
<p>“TV Stubs Out Smoking”
<a href=“http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/TVTrends/2008/0110.asp[/url]”>http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/TVTrends/2008/0110.asp</a></p>
<p>" In June 1967, the Federal Communications Commission required television stations to air anti-smoking advertisements at no cost to the organizations providing them. This was intended to offset the influence of cigarette commercials, which were broadcast many times each day. By April 1970, Congress had passed the Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act, which banned the advertising of cigarettes on television and radio. The last cigarette commercial on television aired on January 1, 1971. "</p>
<p>When I was in undergrad and grad school, smoking was allowed in classrooms and offices. I was in a conference in undergrad with a professor in her tiny office, who smoked the entire time as I coughed and my eyes were running. “Oh, is this bothering you?” Finally she put out her cig, very reluctantly as though there was truly something very wrong with me.</p>
<p>In grad school I remember one class with the professor and most of the class chain smoking and I was about to expire. No one cared back then if the smoke bothered you.</p>
<p>Interesting thread. I read the first post and was thinking how naive and sheltered our young people are - of course smoking used to be permitted indoors. But even I had forgotten how prevalent smoking was. Nonsmoking sections on airplanes were a joke when you were in the first nonsmoking row. Nonsmoking sections in restaurants could be equally useless. Smoking in classes? In hospitals? I guess I am the naive sheltered one!! LOL (age 50+) or maybe it’s just my failing memory…</p>
<p>Watch the old Dr. Kildare movies with Lionel Barrymore and Lew Ayres. Or any of the War movies in the 40s. Everyone smokes like chimneys. Everyone then thought it made you look sophisticated.</p>
<p>watch mad men, they smoke constantly. it is funny to see how different the 60s were.</p>
<p>I remember people smoking in the conference rooms of my early jobs. And how disgusting it was – they’d chopped the conference room out of space without adequate HVAC and the smoke just hung in the air. </p>
<p>But people smoked everywhere – and if you didn’t like it there was something wrong with YOU. My SIL and BIL who were about 15 years older than me were particularly obnoxious about it, even long after you couldn’t smoke in restaurants. Visiting them at home was cause for a fight with my H because I couldn’t hang out in the family room with them … and was labled an anti-social snob.</p>
<p>Smoking has caused some of the most bitter disagreements in my family. The younger generation did not want their babies exposed to cigarette smoke. The older generation resented being asked not to smoke. It got very sad.</p>
<p>^^Lucky for the babies they weren’t put out on the porch!</p>
<p>Re: cigarettes in early films, I saw some college students watching Marlene Dietrich in Blue Angel. They thought she was sexy EXCEPT for the cigarette smoke. “Too hard to see her…”</p>
<p>You should have seen the AGONY where I worked when they began instituting controls on smoking. The smokers were incensed, then panicked. I cannot fully describe the depth of the angst which was felt. It took years of incremental ratcheting down before smoking was totally banned. I used to laugh and tell them all smokers would eventually have to move to New York City. (Sorry, NYC.)</p>
<p>I went into labor at work with S1 25 years ago and was driven home from the office by a car service. The driver asked me if I minded if he smoked, I said yes, and he proceeded to smoke anyway, with his window open. When I got out of the car, he noticed I was pregnant, and then he apologized. I guess smoking in a car with a pregnant woman was verboten in his book – but not smoking when someone just told you they don’t want you to!</p>
<p>My smoking in the “residents room” was essentially how H and I met. It would have been in the Bronx, about 1986. He says he remembers my response to someone who complained about my smoking. Apparently he was impressed. I can’t imagine what I must have said.</p>
<p>There is an area outside my office builiding for smokers. I am always amazed to see people there at or before 8am, when I am arriving for work. I was never a smoker, so really cannot identify with the habit (had a few cigareetes when we would go out with friends for a drink back in college, when the drinking age was 18, and also had an occsional cigarette to stay awake when pulling an all-nighter, but thats about it) so I cannot identify with the need to shiver in the early morning air, or swelter outside itn the heat of summer for a cigarette. Sympathies to those of you who have struggled with this.</p>
<p>My parents smoked 5 packs a day between them. Dad quit 30 years ago and Mom about 20. They are retired now and could not imagine shelling out $1,000 or so per month on cigarettes.
When I was a kid there was never a time when a cigarette was not lit in the house or car. None of their children ever smoked.</p>