Murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO

Maybe an accomplice was watching for him to exit and letting the shooter know he was coming. Ugh.

yea… and I imagine the police now know (or will soon know) the identity. Catching him may take some time, depending on how far he got and whether there are helpers.

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I read yesterday that the use of the silencer was one of the reasons they thought it might be a professional hit because no one else would be likely to have one. But I also know pretty much nothing about guns and gun owner habits.

Yes and I thought I read that the type of gun wasn’t sold in that area (NY, NJ )

I don’t believe the conference was supposed to start until 8 or 9 a.m. I’m sure the shooter thought being there 1-2 hours earlier would give him ample time to lie in wait for the CEO.

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This is what I think - he was planning on hanging out and thought he was getting there early.

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If anyone cares to see how a suppressor works there is a video on YouTube by an engineer that is informative. He uses high speed cameras to demonstrate how they work.

Google Smarter Every Day Suppressor.

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I think the writing on the bullets is a red herring - it was probably a professional hit by a spouse, family member, etc. - trying to look like a political or personal vendetta about health care. I always say follow the money - that will lead you to a motive.

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It’s all very creepy. I will say thank goodness he only went for “one” and not the “many” that had to be around on that busy with pedestrians street.

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I totally agree. Who is going to take the time to write on bullets? It’s to increase the ring of suspicion. Follow the money and look closely at personal relationships. I bet they id the shooter in the next couple of days.

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Anyone that paid this shooter is getting closer to a federal penitentiary every minute.

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This makes no sense. Wasn’t he with the police for 20 years? I call BS on that. I think Adams is one, weird, and two, trying to sensationalize the crime and making it seem like this is so out of the ordinary to CYA for why they haven’t caught the guy yet. I’m confident that they will.

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Are you asking what they do to process the DNA that they picked up at the scene of the crime, or are you asking what they do with the DNA after it has been processed?

As for sites like Ancestry, most have the option for the person who submits their DNA to opt out of allowing law enforcement to use their DNA for solving crimes. I’m not certain whether that covers an actual suspect, but it definitely covers the use of DNA matches to find relatives of the suspect, the way that they did with the Golden State Killer.

That was my thought, although I’m a big fan of crime shows and books.

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This is the current new twist being discussed in one of my group texts.

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There is no way that the shooter is not going to get caught, based on the widely circulated pictures of his face. I assume the FBI will figure this out rather quickly.

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Silencers: They’re rare. They cause problems for shooters, and the payoff isn’t really worth it, unless perhaps muzzle flash is your main concern.

Perspective (for lack of a better word): There have been over 300 murders in NYC so far this calendar year. Some of them have occurred in public, and some of them have been (apparent or definite) murders for hire, and many have targeted a specific individual. It’s honestly kind of wild that this one is making national headlines, a public manhunt, and so on. I get that a targeted killing of a CEO of a massive corporation is unusual, but if I were the relative of someone else whose killing fit the same profile except that the victim wasn’t hyperrich, I’d be steaming mad at the clearly disparate allocation of resources.

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Maybe there’s a 3rd party involved? He and his wife had been separated for a long time it sounds like.

All this intrigue.

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I don’t think the issue is that he’s “superrich”. I think every public company in America at some point has their senior leadership at either an investor conference, an appearance at the New York Stock Exchange, an Annual Shareholder’s meeting, or some other governance/market confidence type event. Plus sitting for interviews with Bloomberg et al.

So the resources are more about reassuring the capital markets that NYC is- on balance- a reasonably safe place for corporate and investment leaders to do business.

I know this isn’t what the family of a kid gunned down in front of a HS want to hear, but there is a disparate impact on the city (hence the deployment of public resources).

It’s like the search warrants executed on Mayor Adams. He’s not the only guy in America who has accepted free hotel rooms, airline upgrades, etc. in exchange for “favors”. But if the allegations are correct- his “favors” amounted to huge abuses of public funds, waiving building regulations for his benefactors, and other abuses of power and trust.

So Joe Smith who got a hotel upgrade in exchange for introducing the concierge’s son to his boss who is a Manager of HR for Chipotle… and the son is dying to get his foot in the door at Chipotle-- not quite the same impact on public trust as a Mayor trading favors, right?

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