Music from College Days

<p>patient:
Thankfully, both my Ss use earphones so we don’t hear their music. They don’t listen to ours. H is currently transferring Mahler onto his iPod (actually, an equivalent). He, too, uses earphones.</p>

<p>What do I like from my kids’ music? They Might Be Giants. Alanis Morrisette. Holly Cole. Some other stuff whose names escape me. I have a secret fondness for Country music (esp. LeAnn Rimes) that appalls my children.</p>

<p>Redemption Song–Bob Marley
Shout–Chambers Brothers
You Make me Want to Shout–Isley Brothers (one of the all time Bar Mitzvah favorite)
Sumertime–Jamies (anyone else remember this one)
I Love LA and Sail Away–Randy Newman
I Can See Clearly Now–Johnny Nash
Do Wa Diddy Diddy–???
Twist and Shout–Isley Brothers (another all time Bar Mitzvah favorite)
Mustang Sally–Wilson Pickett
Land of a 1000 Dances–Wilson Pickett
In the Midnight Hour–Wilson Pickett
Ring of Fire–Johnny Cash</p>

<p>A friend of mine is looking for message boards/forums/chatrooms devoted to music. Anyone know of these?</p>

<p>optimizerdad - Fleetwood Mac was grad school for me, but count my vote for them, too. And Simon and Garfunkel? Timeless (hope none of these young turks disagree on that). Aren’t they going to re-tour sometime soon? Maybe that can be an occasion for one of those famous cc parties - those of us who were alive in their heyday should be automatic admits.</p>

<p>Do I dare mention Neil Diamond?</p>

<p>Heh – I saw S&G on tour on Paul’s 63rd b’day in '03. That automatically makes my party one of the more elite.</p>

<p>(You should forgive my also enjoying <em>some</em> vocal music of the time, DudeDil… :wink: )</p>

<p>(PS: jmmom, if you’re hoping to be accepted at my party, you won’t want to mention Neil Diamond…)</p>

<p>I second Hey Ya & John Mayer Daughters</p>

<p>Other Kids’ stuff that I like</p>

<p>eminem 8 Mile soundtrack
Christina Aguilera “You are Beautiful”
Blink 182
Smashmouth
Third Eye Blind
Beyonce</p>

<p>Not sure the artist, but there’s a dance track called “Tipsy” that I love
I also love the “Lady Marmalade” remake</p>

<p>For the Far From Bourgeois Monsieur C-Mudge:</p>

<p>I don’t view my musical preferences as somehow more elite, or better, merely and simply as my kind of thing. So I’m sensitive to being something of a music libertarian and try hard to avoid giving off any snooty vibe – I practice this daily because my wife favors Cat Stevens, James Taylor, Simon & G’funkel, and --dare I say it – Neil Diamond, over any of my music.</p>

<p>DiMeola? Like him, don’t love him (he always seemed more of a speed for speed’s sake player than comparable burner McLaughlin). I do play DiMeola’s “Land of the Midnight Sun” fairly often. For jazz-rock of that era (other than McLaughlin), I thought the better known and more mainstream Jeff Beck played with more heart and soul (as did Allen Holdsworth, John Abercrombie, and the brilliant Brazilian – Egberto Gismonti).</p>

<p>Phillip Glass? Excellent. I listened to quite a bit of Glass and fellow minimalist Steve Reich in college (“Music for 18 Musicians” was a personal favorite). Terry Riley too. Nothing at all bourgeois about this pulsy, patterned stuff (works well with T’ai Chi and Yoga too).</p>

<p>DudeD, Ever hear Indonesian gamelan? It was the inspiration for Glass and Reich. Mesmerizing. (Of course it’s better heard under tropical stars with the scent of frangipani and clove cigarettes.)</p>

<p>momrath, that sounds intoxicating if not mildly felonius.</p>

<p>DudeDil, I was just nodding acknowledgement to your varied and informed taste. If I don’t miss my guess you are a “player”, am I right? I am not. Couldn’t play the stereo without help. How about Ottmar Liebert and Luna Negra? (Yeah, I’m in a bit of a guitar rut here. LOL.)</p>

<p>Now going the other direction, to both of you -the Stomu Yamashta project-Go. What was your take? (For that matter Windwood and Traffic?)</p>

<p>And who forgot the Kinks? Can’t talk late sixties, seventies without Kinks and Lola-L-o-l-a Lola.</p>

<p>Momrath~
Wow. You just brought back some powerful college memories. Reich’s “Music for 18 Musicians” was released in 1978, I think. Anyway, it was fairly new when I took an experimental music class (the only formal university music class I ever took) in 1979. The instructor was a brilliant U of Illinois Physics Ph.D. candidate, defraying his expenses by sharing some of his Julliard background. There were about 8 people in the class and part of our grade involved writing and performing experiemental music of our own – no playing background required, anything goes (I did have a pretty extensive background in both piano and guitar, but our instructor cautioned us that he wasn’t grading on playing ability and traditional (Western) music theory). Anyway, to cut to the chase, our project was a 10-12 minute piece, overdubbed on a spartan 4-track tape unit, with my partner and I playing a two-performer Balinese Gamelan kotekan (for those who don’t know … and I might be rusty: Balinese is of course the geographic nod to Bali; gamelan is the style of music – an all percussion ensemble – in our case we played these very ornate Indonesian metallophones – courtesy of a Dutch history professor (as I understand it, the Dutch were partially involved in gamelan music becoming secularized); and a kotekan is a music theory staple to gamelan music, it basically being an interlocking, repeated melody, generally repeated over-and-over in a pulse like fashion, with the playing responsibility for the melody being divided amongst the various players in the gamelan ensemble. Anyway, in our two-man group, we had a two-man gamelan rhythm track, ultimately joined by a classically oriented improvised flute line, and then a jazzy-bluesy, fuzzy, oriented improvised guitar line.</p>

<p>I’m not sure anybody actually enjoyed the piece but us, but we enjoyed it immensely. Mesmerizing is the perfect word for it, consciousness enhancers strictly optional.</p>

<p>Glass and Reich have been openly inspired by this music, but since at least the early to mid 1990’s there have been hundreds of contemporary artists who have used this style of short patterned pulses as the basis of clubby, techno music carrying much of our younger generation through entire nights of clubbing (this is really many branches removed from my thing, but I’m familiar with current artists like “The Orb” and Steve Hillage’s “System 7” – Hillage being a guitar innovator from the early 1970’s with groups like Khan and Gong).</p>

<p>So, yes Momrath, I’ve heard Indonesian gamelan. It’s amazaing stuff.</p>

<p>C-Mudge,
Understood. No offense taken whatsoever.
I liked Yamashta and the Go-era projects, but I preferred the Germans in this genre, Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze solo projects, and, at times some of the English progressive rockers who dabbled in it – Mike Oldfield and Bill Nelson.</p>

<p>Steve Winwood? He was an immensely talented guy. I always wished he would have reached for more, rather than (seemingly) going for the commercial benefits. Clearly, that’s totally his right to support himself in his career any way he desired, but I somehow always felt we heard just the smallest tip of the Winwood repertoire iceberg.</p>

<p>Liebert is a very interesting flamenco-style guitar player. My son loves him. My two favorite multi-genre guitar artists are definitely the venerable Ralph Towner and Brazil’s Egberto Gismonti – both found on a 1,000,001 ECM titles near you (although Towner’s work with the jazz-world fusion group “Oregon” is often amazing).</p>

<p>Ottmar Liebert is so awesome! My 16-yr-old can play almost every song on Barcelona Nights. I love that CD. </p>

<p>He is now trying to learn a few songs from Leo Kottke. </p>

<p>Music my kids like that I like too? Hmmm. Most of their musical tastes is pretty much stuff I already liked from either my childhood, HS/college days, or from when they were too young to notice: </p>

<p>Van Halen
Zeppelin
Nirvana
Eagles
Heart
Rush
Guns & Roses
Greenday</p>

<p>This is pretty much what they like. I can thank my lucky stars that they are not into rap :eek:</p>

<p>Oh yeah, did anybody mention Badfinger yet? I have their best of and LOVE it!!</p>

<p>tsdad: I love your mixes! As I mentioned (back on page 1??) I have a ton of mix CDs which I assembled for S’s baseball games. Although they have music spanning several years. BTW, Drift Away is on one of them–DH loves that song too!</p>

<p>Thank you Dr.–on to my taxes.</p>

<p>I enjoyed being reminded of Al Dimeola’s “Land of the Midnight Sun” album. Although I agree with the “speed demon” critique, I loved the acoustic guitar/acoustic piano duet with Chick Corea “Short Tales of the Black Forest.” I remember it as being the first cut, very long, and just one of the best things either of them ever did. I actually saw them perform it in one of the small jazz clubs on Boylston Street when the album came out ('75 ?), and I used to play it over and over whenever I was writing papers. Got to see Ralph Towner up there too.</p>

<p>The albums that I remember as being absolutely ubiquitous at BU mid-to-late 70s, to the point of becoming tiresome no matter how good they were: The first two (reincarnated) Fleetwood Mac albums, Frampton Comes Alive, Earth Wind and Fire, and in my dorm (athletic dorm) whatever Commodores album had “Brick House” on it. A couple of our basketball players had the loudest, highest-fidelity stereo system I’ve ever heard outside of a nightclub.</p>

<p>I don’t know how it compares today, but the music scene in Boston and Cambridge back then was extraordinary, with so many options that it became a distracting addiction for many of us. I saw the entire pantheon of living jazz greats in little clubs seating 500 or less. But two of my favorite musical memories from then were rock-related, and occurred in a quasi-dive bar called the Boston Club, on Comm Ave., where I saw Dire Straits and The Police (separately) touring in support of their first albums. I had never heard of either of them. I first heard “Sultans of Swing” live, 15 feet from Mark Knopfler, before I ever heard it on the radio, and I still remember getting goosebumps. Speaking of Boston and guitar slingers, if you haven’t heard of “Johnny A” you really need to. He’s actually about “our” age, a Boston session player who’s been knocking around for years, and has only recently put out a pair of CDs, thanks to Steve Vai discovering him. I saw him recently at The Point in Bryn Mawr (yes, the old “Main Point”). He’s like Danny Gatton reincarnated, but even better.</p>

<p>guitar players I love(ed) not in any order and some of them I don’t really listen to anymore( like Ted- can’t get past the drag 'em off by the hair thang)
Johhny Winter
Jeff Beck
Eric Clapton
Bonnie Raitt
Joan Armatrading
Robin Trower
Carlos Santana
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Jimi Hendrix
Eddie Van Halen
Ted Nugent
Mike McCready
Pete Townshend
Alvin Lee
Mark Knopfler
Hoyt Axton</p>

<p>( going to go dig out old albums)</p>

<p>Oh man … Robin Trower! Whenever I go into guitar gear testing mode (fortunately for my kids and their college nest-eggs, this happens very rarely these days), I invariably lapse into Trower’s “Bridge of Sighs.” Reverb, depth, presence, vibrato, and also clarity during some speedy blues runs … this blues rock staple showcases an amp. It also insures the proper pained look as the young guitar hotrods see 20-30 years into their future. That look is almost worth all of the gray and absent hair. :)</p>

<p>I like Joe Satriani too for guitar.</p>

<p>Driver~
Given all of the students in the area, the Boston/Cambridge music scene was pretty amazing. I was out there '80-'83 (BU Law). Saw a decent amount of live jazz down towards Copley, more in Cambridge (closer to MIT than Harvard), and some in the Allston/Brighton student “ghetto” off of Comm Ave (I forgot the name of the place; my wife worked at a lab right where Comm Ave forked – Brighton Ave heading off to the North? – anyway it was right near there).</p>

<p>Funds for music being at a premium in those days, I saw less live music than I would have liked. On the other hand, mercenary in the making that I was, I soon learned that incredibly high-end and cheap music lessons were available from some students at Berklee. I wound up taking a couple of short series of lessons boning up my keyboard and guitar skills. And ~stealing a line from Steely Dan~ I also learned to work the saxophone (much to the chagrin of my wonderful landlords).</p>

<p>Driver, Dude, </p>

<p>I was also nearby in same time frame. Do you remember the club/ rock scene with Joan Jett, The Motels, & “867-5309”? Also the bar band NRBQ?</p>