My Brown Story

<p>Before you get too involved with this, let me inform you that this entire thing is going to be pointless. By pointless I mean, extending to you all that I am about to will not help you much. But I suppose most instances people use this forum just to bring relief to themselves. After 3 months of some minute activity here, I too have submitted before the tradition.</p>

<p>I saw brown for the first time at this very place. No it wasn’t love at the first encounter. In fact the name disgusted me. How uncreative and easy it was to name something after an alum in view of his gift of a $5000. But gradually I fell in love for all the right reasons except for the Emma factor. Though I researched thoroughly and knew my chances, I made the proposal anyway. I did in time though. 30th December 2010.
So what’s so interesting about this?
Well for one, I am an international(Pakistani). You know that doesn’t help. Secondly, I am not a rich kid. Instead of assuring great sums of money which most of my rivals did, I demonstrated the audacity to request for her aid while expecting an acceptance of the proposal. I understand that is not gentlemanly, but there is nothing much I could do. As a kid I always fantasized how money couldn’t determine the quality of one’s education. Unfortunately I do even now. This detachment from reality is actually disturbing. Getting an acceptance from brown is difficult, let alone with little financial contribution.
Obviously I couldn’t do much about the money and international status. But there was a thing still in my hands- The Proposal Itself. </p>

<p>Essays, Transcripts, Sat Scores, Recommendation, Interview, rank, Extra Curricular Activities together constitute the proposal for a darling such as Brown( pardon my choice of words). Through hard work, planning, and some appropriate decisions, I could use these factors to strengthen my chances. Now here’s what I did.
Transcripts: My schooling until O levels was pretty good. Through good study habits, I managed A’s in all of my 10 rigorous courses for the three years. (maths, English, Islamiyat, Pakistan Studies, Urdu, Physics, Biology, Chemistry, Additional Mathematics, Commerce). Consequently, I graduated from the school as a Salutatorian. For my A Levels I moved to a new school. For some reason or the other, I let go of everything. My grades deteriorated and as a result of severe procrastination, my mental sharpness and concentration for exams just didn’t remain the same. All of my good work of the previous years was negated with a relatively weak second transcript.
Sat Scores: Though I managed to get both my Sat Subjects above the 700 mark(730 maths 2 and 710 physics), I gave my SAT reasoning at a time when my capability just wasn’t the same. A normal brown seeker would look to attain a 2100 to feel safe. I aimed at 2200. Scoring a 2250 in the last practice test, I felt good for the exam day. But it wasn’t to be. A year wasted in Procrastination and laziness was going to come back to haunt me. And it did right on the test day. I panicked like I never did before and just couldn’t deliver the goods. I felt short of my target. 220 points short.
Extra Curricular: Again, I didn’t do much here. All I have in my EC’s is dancing, tennis, acting. These things I love doing and Have been doing since I was 4. But other than that, I haven’t done what most students do to secure a place in a good university. I know all that grooms them. I know all those activities, those competitions, those forums, those experiences help them prepare for their future , But I always preferred doing little things that are beyond the scope of recordation. Simply put, If somebody was to ask me an achievement of mine, I would tell them ‘I have stared at a clock dial for an entire one hour’.
Interview: My interviewer was a brown alum and his family was one of the 50 richest families of my country. We found common ground through our fascinations with lawn tennis. He said he was pleased with the amount of information I had regarding brown and would write a good word for me.
Essays and Recommendations: This Part is unarguably the strongest of my application. My recommendations I suppose are up to the mark. In my essays(or love notes I should say), I have been myself- A dancer cum prospective engineer. But Days after I submitted them, I realized I had made a couple of punctuation mistakes. I immediately rushed to this forum to see if I wasn’t the only one. To my relief, I wasn’t the only one.
For the supplement question that asks prospective engineers the reason why they want to do engineering, I gave an idea in which I said this, ( directly quoted from my supplement)
‘I want to learn engineering, and create what engineers are renowned for; a bridge. but the one, no engineer has created before. The ultimate bridge between societies, communities, ideologies, so that we enjoy every progress we make to the fullest and most importantly, together’. This was an idea completely original and something I wholeheartedly wished to do. Days later I was just going through brown’s site and I read almost the same thing under the school of engineering tab. ‘engineers at brown create bridges-between disciplines, concentrations…’. A Complete coincidence. Though It made me feel that I was actually a fit for brown, Adcoms would surely see it as a case of plagiarism. At first I thought I should contact the admission department saying how this was unintentional. But It was like bringing notice to something that could have possibly been missed. Again it turned out to be an imperfect segment of my application.
This is not a chance me thread. I believe I am sound enough to understand where I stand. If I have to quantify, I’d say my chance is 0.1. but you know, “In Deo Speramus”.
I have so much to do with likely-ness. My acceptance is too unlikely and my rejection is too likely, so I might receive a third response. ‘The Likely Letter’. (wow!! kill me for my optimism)
sorry this is long and boring, But I just wanted to write something. Something dear to me. Brown is for now the love of my life. Looks like it will also be unrequited.
Best of luck everybody. Do well. (Just wanted to share all this)</p>

<p>I just read your post, and I think it truly speaks for the dedicated student that aspires to be at Brown. Though I am on the other side of the globe, we both have common ground through our passion for Brown. Brown has been my first choice for a while, and it is a perfect fit for me. Financially, I am in the same boat as you are. For months, I begged my parents to let me ED to Brown, hoping it would increase my chances of admission. It took me awhile to realize that my family just doesn’t have the financial capacity to take on such an ambiguity.</p>

<p>Now, there are just 24 days until Brown decisions are released. I’m no insider or AO, but I can only hope that Brown looks past the numbers to find a real person in each application.</p>

<p>I have teetered between hope and doubt for the past few weeks, anxious for a decision that will decide my collegiate fate. However, I have come to understand that collegiate fate does not equal ultimate fate. Come March 30th, I’ll log onto my computer, and regardless of whether I see “Accepted” or “Denied,” I will at least be happy I applied. I can only hope the same for you.</p>

<p>Your post was not pointless. Applying to Brown was not pointless. All of your accomplishments, hard work, and knowledge were not pointless. Regardless of the decision Brown makes about your application, you will be able to achieve great things and excel in whatever you may choose.</p>

<p>Best of Luck from a Fellow Brown Devotee.</p>

<p>(For the record, it is and has long been standard practice at American colleges and universities to name things (often including the university itself) after a wealthy benefactor.)</p>

<p>sahiscope, that’s a great story! and even though i’m not an applicant to brown, there is so much i have in common with your experiences. :)</p>

<p>if you’re interested, do post this in the following thread as well.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/994880-official-pakistani-thread-class-2015-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/994880-official-pakistani-thread-class-2015-a.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Thank you goldtortoise. Those were very nice words. I hope you do well too. good luck man.
mgcsinc I am aware of that. But the name to me was just not appealing.
pakipower, Thank you. And sure I will.</p>

<p>sorry for totally hijacking this thread, but food for thought:</p>

<p>a $5,000 donation in 1804, if adjusted for inflation, is only about $72,000 today. Obviously this would be no where near enough to rename Brown now. My question is: How much do you think it would take? How much is the brand name of “Brown University” worth?</p>

<p>Some relevant info:
Sidney Frank donated $100 million, got a new building renamed after him
Warren Alpert donated $100 million, got medical school named after him</p>

<p>The endowment increased 1.5x in 3 years ([List</a> of colleges and universities in the United States by endowment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_the_United_States_by_endowment]List”>List of colleges and universities in the United States by endowment - Wikipedia)) so I’ll say you would have to probably at least give double the endowment, if not more. I was about to write $6 billion would be enough, but I feel like I would push for $10 billion if I were Brown.</p>

<p>though I dont know how much the brand name is worth, it makes sense that a 5000 donation in 1804 meant much to the university than what a 100 million Cheque does now. Today obviously they have a lot of money. The 5000 gift back then was one of the very first donations and it therefore carried a lot of weight.</p>

<p>I ,too dream of Brown. I fear coming march 30th. I ,too, am your fellow traveler in this long,rocky,journey Sahiscope.</p>

<p>I am so nervous!!!</p>

<p>Don’t be. You’ll have it good.</p>

<p>Hey Sahiscope!
That’s a great story…:slight_smile:
And i sincerely hope you get in!.:slight_smile:
I first heard of Brown when i attended a high school visit and i met the President of admissions. It blew me away!( the seminar she gave) and i knew Brown was for me.
I have a question: You had an interview with Brown? I didn’t know Brown interviewed undergrads!</p>

<p>^I think you’re thinking of the President of the University, not of admissions. The dean of admissions is a man.</p>

<p>Like many schools, Brown interviews as many applicants as it can each year through alumni interviewers. There is a thread that details the process: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/810532-brown-interview-faq-answers.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/810532-brown-interview-faq-answers.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Actually, if the inflation rate were 5% over the past 206 years (1804 - 2011), the $5,000 would be equivalent to about $115.9 MILLION (at a 4.0% compounding rate, the $5,000 grows only to about $16 million). Its called the power of compounding, folks. You can see the comparative value by looking at the recent $200 million gift by a donor to USC – it is literally worth much more than the founding grant to Brown! $5,000 grows to $72,000 only if the 206 year compounding rate is 1.3%</p>

<p>^^</p>

<p>Yeah, I thought that conversion was low. I didn’t do it myself, I googled an year converter thing. I still stand by my several billion dollar donation requirement though.</p>

<p>^^ i meant the director of international admissions…my bad.</p>

<p>I thought I should say this at my thread.
Rejected.</p>