<p>I once went to a movie and smoked with a teacher. He’s excellent.</p>
<p>Uhh. Hold up. There IS something wrong here. There ARE professional lines that need to be drawn and they need to be for a reason. At any school, there are strict rules against this sort of thing. Teachers aren’t even supposed to drive students home from school. My friend is very close friends with a teacher and she was walking home in the cold and asked him to give her a ride and he apologized and said he couldn’t because he didn’t want to put his job in peril. No one knows what is going on when that student and your friend are playing tennis. It is irresponsible for the teacher to put him/herself in that position. What if your friend decided to make up lies about what was happening? The teacher would be fired. It’s a dangerous situation and, were the school to be made aware of it, the teacher would be in a lot of trouble. I don’t think it’s so much a matter of “sucking up”. Perhaps they are just friends and are just playing tennis. But it isn’t something that should be happening. </p>
<p>On the other hand… uh, that still doesn’t really make it your business and you really shouldn’t care solely for the “advantage” that you’re losing academically by not playing tennis with a teacher… o_O;</p>
<p>Teachers at my school routinely “hang out” with students outside of school (food, movies, etc).</p>
<p>citygirlsmom is just really uptight and her Ds school is probably just as uptight. Maybe the kid is actually good at lit? did you stop and think about that? I have hung out with a teacher outside of school. We got lunch a few times on saturdays. My grade didn’t go up in that class, I didn’t get a recomendation out of it, the teacher was just nice. And if i was sucking up, so what? I bet the OP is just jealous because they wish they could raise their grade by sucking up. </p>
<p>Even if his grades are going up, can’t he just be improving. Why does everyone jump to conclusions. </p>
<p>In fact, my school encourages these friendships. We call all our teachers by their first names. We are their equals. It just creates a better learning environment. I can talk to my teachers about anything from serious stuff Drugs or Sex to superficial crap like Football or Music. I like it, I can get well guided and geniune advice from a “friend” who has been there. These friendships should be encoraged, no critized.</p>
<p>^I agree with that, mostly. But if it’s such an open environment, then why say things like “Essentially, you are a snitch if you tattle”?? Not a good attitude to promote when you’re dealing with student-adult friendships.</p>
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<p>There is a difference. There is nothing wrong with the relationship. But hanging out outside of school just can’t happen. It’s a liability. I don’t understand how you people don’t see that. If I were to go play tennis with a teacher today, I could easily go tell all my friends tomorrow that I spent time alone with said teacher. If word were to get around, the teacher would be in HUGE trouble, particularly if the rumor were to have grown. Schools have to take these sorts of things seriously and there is a decent chance the teacher would lose their job. By seeing a student outside of school grounds off hours, the teacher is putting his/her career in jeopardy. It is not responsible.</p>
<p>^Weird. I hang out with one of my teachers all the time (the teacher drives me and my other friends around, buys food, picks movies, etc.) and all the other teachers know about it. Administrators couldn’t care less. This seems to be a common practice–nothing special.</p>
<p>Talking to your teachers about “stuff”, going to a FAMILY dinner, etc is very very different from meeting a teacher alone and having that kind of private relationship</p>
<p>For an ADULT teacher who themselves has a legal responsibility and has to report even the slightest hint of inpropriety is a fool to hang out alone with a student, well that teacher is a fool, no matter how he tries to explain it away</p>
<p>No respectable teacher or school staff person I have ever met would hang out with a student alone off of campus- sure, maybe with 4-5 students to see a play, or an exhibit, but not a regular thing with the student calling up the teacher</p>
<p>It would at a MINIMUM be with many students- it is doing something alone that is stupid, no matter what it is</p>
<p>Talking to your teacher on campus about issues is great</p>
<p>Calling oyur teacher up to hang out alone is something quite different</p>
<p>And if students at the teachers school are talking about it and wondering, there is already a problem.</p>
<p>As an adult, who has teacher friends,t hey would never do this- play tennis with a current student alone on weekends</p>
<p>They value their jobs too much and see how easily it can be misconstrued</p>
<p>As for those who think I am update, well, gosh, I am an adult who has seen a lot more than you</p>
<p>And if there is even the APPEARANCE of wrongdoing, that is often enough to cause problems for a teacher</p>
<p>I will make a prediction that this teacher will get called in for his poor judgement, because if he shows it in one area, guaranteed it is in another</p>
<p>And now, for the kid who calls him up, his grade in that class will be doubted by other students</p>
<p>So call me uptight or whatever you need to, in the real world of teacher ethics and responsiblity, this teacher is being very foolish and doing something that could someday cost him his job</p>
<p>BTW, how old is this teacher</p>
<p>For those that hang out with your teachers outside of school, how old are those teachers, and to be honest, if I heard a teacher was doing that- buying food, goes to movies etc, I would wonder about the judgement of that adult.</p>
<p>No offense but adults that hangout out with teenagers in their spare time for fun, and do it often have issues and maturity issues, no matter the age</p>
<p>And for a teacher to do that, wow…</p>
<p>With accusasions every day of sexual advances, and other things why a teacher woul take such a risk suprises me, and to risk their reputation so they can bond or whatever and play with their students is just bizarre</p>
<p>As I said, no self respecting teacher I have ever met woul risk their professional lives to play tennis with a kid out of school</p>
<p>Say, after school, a teacher played tennis on the school courts with a student, and they met there, and went their seperate ways from there that is one thing, perhaps, but to meet privately, and on a consistent basis away from school, alone, well…sorry red flags for most adults are raised</p>
<p>Think of it this way, you may not think its a big deal, but the people that have the power may and do</p>
<p>TO those who see nothing wrong, teachers have rules, they have guidelines, that have responsibilities, and they are supposed to present an image of respect, fairness, and decorum.</p>
<p>It is not even a matter of the student being treated better, that is actually irrelevant…it matters not at all</p>
<p>That is a side issue </p>
<p>Just the fact a teacher is hanging out alone with a minor student on weekend is enough to get that teacher in major trouble for having a total lack of judgement</p>
<p>And for that student to feel he has such freedom to call that teacher on his cellphone anytime he wants, that relationship has gone way beyond teacher and student and the teacher has breached the trust of the school</p>
<p>If I was a parent in that school and heard this, I would report it. Because, as I said, guaranteed this teacher has crossed the line in other areas</p>
<p>If it’s really bothering you and you feel the other student’s getting treated better then go talk to your teacher…or the principal or something. Otherwise, why don’t you find a way to establish a better relationship with your teacher?</p>
<p>I agree, with most teachers this would be pretty weird.</p>
<p>Question though:</p>
<p>At small colleges where students say that they are close with professors and speak to them on first-name basis and hang out with them… is that crossing the professional boundary line as well?</p>
<p>At colleges most students are 18, not minors like they were in high school.</p>
<p>Wow… it’s amazing the feelings people have on this subject. Because the teacher seeks to have a non-romantic relationship with a student, the teacher is considered a fool for not upoholding perfect decorum and doing something completely inappropriate. The general consensus is that he should be paranoid that the student will accuse him with unfair grading or sexual accusations due to the natural mean-spiritedness of people? Wow…</p>
<p>i go to a small private school where the relationships between students and teachers are similar to what they would look like in college. i occasionally grab coffee with my english teacher and one of my friends regularly plays golf with the headmaster. not a big deal.</p>
<p>Can you say nosey? Why would it concern you? Who cares if they play together?</p>
<p>This reminds me…My brother’s professor always comes to our picnic’s, what is the big deal? I have played indoor soccer with my lit teacher. Is there a problem with that?</p>
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<p>gee this teacher was fired, and it wasn’t sexual</p>
<p>“spent hours per day outside school hours in the girl’s company, talking to her on the phone or e-mailing with her…”</p>
<p>This guy is just playing tennis with him…They are not outside talking to each other for hours…</p>
<p>But the kid is calling him…and meeting up with a teacher outside of school for social occasions alone</p>
<p>the teacher is a fool</p>
<p>what I have read from other teachers, is that they would never do such a thing on a consistent basis and alone with the student, never</p>