My Obama bubble is burst. He smokes.

<p>Here is a balanced account of the Reagan rape:</p>

<p>In April 1991, major newspapers carried the report that actress Selene Walters claimed that, in 1952, Reagan, when he was president of the Screen Actors Guild, had raped her in her home. The charge was initially publicized in Kitty Kelley’s unauthorized biography of Nancy Reagan and then repeated in a People magazine interview with Walters. “I opened the door,” Walters told the magazine. “Then it was the battle of the couch. I was fighting him. I didn’t want him to make love to me. He’s a very big man, and he just had his way.” According to Kelley, Walters shared contemporaneous accounts of the encounter with friends.</p>

<p>39 years after the fact, and with no reason to lie, and no elections on the line, and nothing to gain, Walters sure seems credible to me.</p>

<p>Stay the course.</p>

<p>Well, mini, at least we now get to see what your view of “balanced” is.</p>

<p>Hmm, what will it take to keep a thread from unraveling into Clinton rags?</p>

<p>“Well, mini, at least we now get to see what your view of “balanced” is.”</p>

<p>Glad you agree. Now shall I post the lurid story of Newt and his poor wives and his mistresses? Or would you like to hear more about sex in Gracie Mansion, and what the judge thought about exposing Rudy’s eight-year-old to the sexpots?</p>

<p>Stay the course.</p>

<p>However long the Republicans are in power, mucking things up, there will always be the deflections to Clinton.</p>

<p>Those blow jobs were the absolute best ammunition anyone ever gave the GOP.</p>

<p>Lets take the word of someone 39 years later, who is trying to trash the republicans and conservatism and reagans legacy. Some of you people give more benefit of the doubt to terrorists than to our former pres</p>

<p>You enjoyed leaving out the “contemporaneous accounts”, didn’t you?</p>

<p>Stay the course.</p>

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<p>Actually, they are the best defense ever contrived by the Democrats, since every time any issue of illegal behavior by Clinton is brought up, the first response is that “it was just consensual sex by a randy guy” - thus deflecting the issue by means of obfuscation.</p>

<p>Yes, it was Clinton and the Stained Blue Dress. DNA evidence outed and caused the perpetrator-in-chief to be Impeached; though it did not make him lie under oath. Where’s the evidence from the other allegations? Are there more dresses to test?</p>

<p>Yes - Stay the Course. Find more dresses.</p>

<p>Wasn’t the effort to impeach Clinton based on the allegation that he “LIED under oath to Congress” concerning his relationship with M.L.? That’s the best the Republicans could come up with, seeing as all those years of White Water investigations had come up snake-eyes. Poor, poor, Kenneth Star…:p</p>

<p>“Actually, they are the best defense ever contrived by the Democrats, since every time any issue of illegal behavior by Clinton is brought up, the first response is that “it was just consensual sex by a randy guy” - thus deflecting the issue by means of obfuscation.”</p>

<p>The best defense is a good offense. Nothing that Bill did with Monica comes close to the indecent, immoral, marriage-denigrating, values-destroying actions of Newt and Rudy. Not even close.</p>

<p>Stay the course.</p>

<p>Obama is a lightweight. I don’t understand the obsession with him at all.</p>

<p>$50M later…a stained blue dress.</p>

<p>To compare Reagan to Clinton is absurd -Clinton had a pattern of MULTIPLE incidents with women over the years:</p>

<p>Selene Walters was shopping her “memoir” around to book publishers in the early 1990’s - the problem was her entire “career” consisted of a few lines in 2grade C movies and one obscure television show</p>

<p>She had good reason to all of a sudden “remember” 40 years later to recall this alleged “rape” She wanted to sell her story.</p>

<p>Broaddrick’s charges are just the tip of the iceberg:</p>

<p>A 1969 charge by a 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford University campus where the future President was a student. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed this week that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim’s family declined to pursue the case; </p>

<p>In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, who was a law student at the college. No charges were filed; </p>

<p>In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law professor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. Clinton claimed the student ‘‘came on’’ to him and she left the school shortly after the incident. </p>

<p>From 1978-1980, during Clinton’s first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor reported seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. </p>

<p>Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen, told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. She later recanted that interview and said had been threatened by Clinton supporters into claiming the sex was consensual. </p>

<p>Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with a cash payment. </p>

<p>A former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation’s capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. The woman has since married and left Washington. </p>

<p>Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.
<a href=“http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Feb1999/020399/clintonrape020399.htm[/url]”>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Feb1999/020399/clintonrape020399.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Note for year 2002 (the 1st full year Bill Clinton was put back on the streets) the very large spike in forcible RAPES in the District of Columbia</p>

<p>"DC Crime Up in 6 of 8 Categories
DC saw an increase in six of the eight crime categories monitored by the FBI for 2002, including 5% increases each in aggravated assaults, burglaries and arsons, a 14% increase in murders, a 15% increase in auto thefts, and a whopping 50% increase in forcible rapes. The only categories seeing a decrease were a 1.2% drop in robberies, and a 6% drop in larcenies/thefts.</p>

<p>see <a href=“http://www.safestreetsdc.com/subpages/fbi.html[/url]”>http://www.safestreetsdc.com/subpages/fbi.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>:rolleyes:</p>

<p>Liz:</p>

<p>He may smoke, but let us hope that he will not lie, fabricate stories to invade other countries and be responsible for THOUSNADS of deaths…(good values from a party of values)</p>

<p>Brandon’s Mom:</p>

<p>Just curious? Why do you think Obama is a lightweight? Can you provide a quote from one of his books? Or a quote from something he’s said? </p>

<p>I’ve been very impressed with excerpts from his books and from interviews. He seems to be pretty aware of what his weaknesses are, and is honest about his past. In politics, he seems to understand the idea of applying reason to decisions, and finding compromise. He said some extremely thoughtful things about the Iraq War on last week’s news shows. For example: “War is not bad, but a war fought on ideology is bad.” </p>

<p>What’s lightweight about him?</p>

<p>bump 10chars</p>

<p>I guess now the pundits are comparing him to Jimmy Carter in '76 as a fresh faced newcomer who offers hope. They also said his feet will be held to the fire regarding two years spent in a madrassah (SP?) in Indonesia.</p>