<p>Just feel like ranting about how stupid some of the adults in our school are. Well, in our school, we have what we call a CAP advisor, who is basically a counselor that helps with things dealing with college. While I went to our college resource center today, to visit our CAP advisor and pick up my SAT and ACT packets since they usually run out fast. Well, I also wanted to ask about the SAT subject tests, and if the packet also included information about the subject tests and how to register so I didn’t have to waste my lunch time again. This is when he started acting stupid. Instead of answering my question, he tells me that I need to to take see if the colleges I am applying to requires SAT subject tests. That’s an understandable question, so I tell him yes, that all the colleges I am applying to requires them. Then he tells me I need to take the SAT I first before I take the SAT subject tests. Now, this is where I have a *** look on my face. I don’t understand why he says that since it’s not like we’re unfamiliar with College Board tests since our school requires 9th and 10th graders to take the PSAT. So I tell him, that I thought that students should take the subject tests right after they complete a subject. He tells me this is wrong and that I must take the SAT I first and then take the subject tests in my senior year (I’m a junior by the way). Now, I know this is wrong, since I have friends who attend other schools in our district who has taken the subject tests first, so I just leave and tell him okay, I’ll just register for it myself online. Sometimes, I just wonder about the people who help to run this school. It seems like this guy, who is supposed to prepare us for college, doesn’t know much about the SAT himself, and it is very stupid, in my opinion, to not advise students to take subject tests until their senior year. <em>shakes head</em> I have a feeling me and the CAP advisor won’t make great friends.</p>
<p>Maybe you should try to be polite to him. I’m told it’s easier to make friends that way. You know, instead of insulting him or calling him stupid.</p>
<p>I deffinitly agree you should take the subject test after you take the class. It’ll be fresher in your mind. Also, the SAT I has nothing to do with the subject tests…except format I guess which you can practice anyway.</p>
<p>Ha, that’s nothing. My school is way dumber, I wish that was the only thing wrong with my school admin. I once was able to write a 5 page essay on how dumb my school admin is.</p>
<p>This is why CC exists :).</p>
<p>LOL SharkObsessed. While my school has some dumb qualities, I do have to admit that we do have some great people who help to run the school, such as our counselors and the principal. Btw, out of curiosity, what did you do with that essay?</p>
<p>In response to Baelor, while I insult him here, I am not stupid enough to insult the person to his face. To insult the person who gives out fee waivers would mean I don’t have common sense. I am respectful to all adults to their face, but if there are some I don’t like, I respect them but do make comments such as how dumb they are to other people, such as friends.</p>
<p>Okay. In my experience, that always backfires. But as you wish.</p>
<p>sb1492: I do the same and applaud your actions, haha =p</p>
<p>My school is pretty stupid too. They are making graduation requirements stricter, but also cutting classes. For example, we have to take voc. ed. to graduate, but there are increasingly fewer voc. eds. available, none of which appeal to the academic crowd.
Only 4 out of 60 APUSH students passes the exam. That should tell you something about the teachers we hire.
Also, the school screwed me over on my sciences my freshmen year, so I am now stuck taking Bio as a senior with all the freshmen. God they’re annoying (no offense).</p>
<p>my school has nothing to do with standardized testing. they just say like oh you guys need to take these tests. we would recommend doing it before your senior year to relieve stress. and oh by the way some schools want you to take subject tests. check wiht you schools. that is all they have said to us. haha</p>
<p>my school has its follies though. i am stuck taking a speech class in my senior year with a bunch of freshman/sophomores. and i have a health class to take too. i moved here as a junior and they are making me take all the freshman and sophomore required courses. it is ridiculous!</p>
<p>My counselor is just as bad. First of all, apparently none of the administration at my school has ever even heard of SAT IIs, and doesn’t want us to take them. I finally said something to my counselor like “uhhh w t f why didn’t you tell me about these before I was a senior?” and they still were a bit lost and said that if SAT IIs should EVER be taken, they shouldn’t be taken until the END OF SENIOR YEAR.
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<p>Yeah, the end of senior year ones are for plaaaaaacement. I registered for all the SAT things by myself. Some took place at my school, but my counselor didn’t have anything to do with it. He just sent out the transcripts- he did that very well, so I don’t have any issues with him. He seriously shot those things out the same day I requested them, even though it’s supposed to take weeks. Nice guy. A little too “You don’t need to take that for Penn State! You should go to PSU, because you’re smart!” but that’s okay.</p>
<p>Ah, luckily for me, my counselors have always been pretty well qualified.</p>
<p>My current college preperatory counselor was the director of undergrad admissions at Notre Dame for 3 years, so I have high hopes for her (competency)!</p>
<p>My school is pretty “stupid” too, in every sense of the word. Last year, out of 400+ seniors, only like 20 ppl applied to competitive colleges (top 30) and 6 got in. The avrg SAT score is 1290…out of 2400 and almost everyone who takes AP’s flunks them. Two yrs ago, i didnt know all of this and was very stuck on my “If I take this and this exam and get 700+, i will have a good chance for blahblah ivy league school” So after i took the AP world history exam in May, I took the June SAT II. I thought that all the prep i did for the AP would help out. but somehow, i ended up w/ a 680 (and i a 5 on the AP) If I had gone more in depth with the material (my class barely prepared me at all), I would have gotten a higher score. </p>
<p>In most cases, the CLASS prepares you for the SAT II exam. But if your school is indeed “stupid” (i.e. bad teachers/administrations/students) than you will probably not be prepared for the SAT II’s unless you do some self-study.</p>
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^ Wow.</p>
<p>Vicky_sky my school is very similar to yours. My school is an inner-city school, which I go to because it is the only other medical magnet school in our district (the other medical magnet school would take about an hour and a half to reach due to traffic). Now, I do have to admit that our school’s drama and medical magnet program are great, but that’s where it ends. After that, it’s what you’ll expect of an inner-city school, however we have done a little better and have brought our school to a high “D” which many of the teachers are actually happy about, because we were an extremely low “F” the previous year.</p>
<p>Vicky_sky, like you, that is around the average for our students out of 2400. Not many people even apply out of state. I don’t know the last time our school sent anyone to an ivy. Actually, the most competitive school, I ever heard someone from our school getting into was NYU. Also, like your school, almost all of our kids who take the AP test flunk it, as in a “1.” Most believe that AP classes just mean giving out lots of homework and classwork, and don’t focus on getting the material covered. For example, last year in AP Psychology, we didn’t even cover 1/2 of the material. I got a “5” but only because I crammed a week before the test using Barron’s. If it weren’t for Barron’s, I can honestly say I would have gotten a “2.”</p>
<p>Moodrets, I’m jealous of you. I wish we had that.</p>
<p>Wow inveniamviam about your school not knowing about SAT IIs. Doesn’t that make you wonder if these people are even interviewed before they are handed a job?</p>
<p>The testing chairperson told me it isn’t allowed to self-study an AP subject and then take the AP exam.</p>
<p>I’m self-studying (and getting free tutoring from a family friend) APs next year and such. It seems awful that some schools don’t allow this!!
We only have APUSH and maybe a science or two… No English APs or anything.
The guidance office has a bad rep at our school- they mess up schedules, are confused, etc. etc. Like every other office in every other school in the nation, yeah? But they are genuinely helpful and while they don’t go out of their way to help the “gifted” (as in SMART) kids on their way to APs, Honors, the SATs, etc. the help is there if you ask for it. I’ve been in there in my two years in middle school more times than most kids have from freshman to senior year.</p>
<p>My school is so stupid too 
Seriously, I would leave my school if i didn’t have such good friends. My school never participated in any Science or math related competitions… oh wait we never participated in ANY academic competitions. Being a Catholic school, i have to take theology which is really a big pain cuz I’m not Catholic. And there’s so many kids in my school, I don’t think my couselor even knows my name. Oh, yeah, and don’t forget the aps. No Science related APs until senior year. I hope my school was one of those prestigious private boarding schools where there is all the opportunities… :(</p>