National Merit Cutoff Predictions Class of 2017

point is, your SAT this year will be compared to other test takers for THIS year by the colleges. You will be compared to your class by admissions officers not other classes.

I know everyone of you children, mine included want to go to Harvard or one of the other Ivies, but I tell my son that if he gets into a top 50 be proud, make good grades and focus on an even better graduate school. But, hey, if you get into Harvard it’s just bonus. I want my son to be happy wherever he goes and I’m sure your parents want the same.

@snicks1234 I agree generally, but I was talking about one students with good GPA and good SAT and GREAT ECs and comparing that student to another student with GREAT GPA and GREAT SAT but with just decent ECs. IMO it’s not a clear cut which student a top college will choose. You can have 2350 SAT score and perfect GPA and still not get admitted to UCLA, but I have seen kids with 2100 SAT and not perfect GPA but with very strong ECs get into UCLA in the SAME major. Of course, if you have lousy GPA and lousy SAT/ACT, I doubt lots of volunteering will help you get in.

@SLparent Yep, my daughters college counselor sent it to me. Interesting article and it matches the concordance tables. She believes some schools will use it to compare old and new SAT scores. My daughter took the old SAT 2260 so we are not going to take the new one. Every place she is looking to go except Virginia Tech takes old or new so we just dropped VT from our list.

My son did take both old and new. He took the old one two years ago and got 2230 and the new one in march and got 1540. He is homeschooled so we figured the more colleges had to go on the better. It is a hard decision for colleges who get so many really wonderful,qualified applicants @websensation and I’m sure they miss the mark on more than a few. especially with as few acceptances as they give out each year.

This jump from the PSAT to SAT assumes no one could have gotten a 1600, nonsense!

there is a concordance out there that compares the old psa t scores to the new ones. My S 1480 would be a 227 under the old Psat? Does that even sound right?

@snicks1234 Do you have the new PSAT SI? You should compare SI to SI.

Only the preliminary concordance tables are posted - CB website says that revised ones will be released in May. We are all waiting…

https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/psat-nmsqt-psat-10/k12-educators/psat-nmsqt-concordance-tables

@snicks1234 Yes, that sounds about right. I didn’t look at the concordance tables but just based on the old psat where a SI could be up to a 240 and the new psat where the highest SI is a 228, coupled with condensing of scores from 225 - 240 to what probably now falls somewhere between a 220 - 228, it isn’t surprising a score of 1480 which is probably an SI of about a 221- 225 on the new psat would be about a 227 under the old SI.

@snicks1234 can’t remember your son’s SI but my D3’s SI was 220 and that concorded to a 223 (old). She had a 1470 total score.

@mamelot, yes he also had a 220 si.

@Mamelot so, 223 old? We both have smart children. lol!

Well,Psat over, SAT over, just waiting for Sept. for official announcement of nmsf. One more SatII subject test and he’s done with standardized testing. Visiting Georgetown and George Washington University in a week after next. Ai Yi Yi!!! I’m feeling overwhelmed already. lol!

@snicks1234 we are able to be much more confident about D3’s SF prospects just due to the fact that she’s a MN kid. It would have been a different story in some other states. This is exactly why so many highly selective schools don’t offer anything for NM. They know that at this level of test performance it really comes down to what state you live in.

@Mamelot yes, that may be why. Or they just like hanging onto their multi billion dollar endowments. lol! Either way,the fact is your child, mine,all I see represented on this thread are in the top scoring band and are elite students. They will be given preference somewhere. Whether they go to a top 10 college or a top 100 college they are going to shine and achieve. We are some really blessed parents.

There will always be kids smarter than your kids. It does not guarantee that these kids will be more successful later on in life. Standardize testing is just one form of measurement. Scoring high is definitely a great source of celebration but scoring low does not mean your kids are doomed for life. We should slightly temper what we say in these postings, less boasting is better for everyone. I am sure many kids that went to top colleges will not shine and achieve.

@ Johnqian wow! okay. I wasn’t boasting I was being thankful. And I was celebrating the fact that our children are motivated and work hard. These are our children and it’s okay to be proud of them. I was speaking to that specifically and denigrating no ones child. We are hoping for our children. And thats okay. These children earned anything they get. But you have a nice day.

And if you read the prior text it was about whether they go to a top school or one much lower,because they are motivated they will more than likely do well. I dont see how that can do anything but inspire. I don’t think any of us,including me, are banking on an Ivy, but rather hoping for opportunities to offset the huge cost of college with scholarships wherever they go.

We all just want our kids to be happy. It’s their journey.