@burstlimit - I have released images from the report, in case you’re curious.
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Hey everyone - I’m a 219 hopeful-NMF in CT. I have only heard that I will be “notified” in early September if I am a NMF, but does anyone know exactly how CB contacts the NMSFs? Also, should I wait for September to send my college apps so I can add “NMSF” to the application?
@ca1543 - yeah, we were hoping that the May concordance table would provide us more info to let us better predict NMSF - but it seems like they provide less info. We thought it would tell us more about the distribution of PSAT scores - but instead it seems like they throw out any PSAT-relevant info, just assume that new PSAT maps to new SAT 1:1 (even though it doesn’t), and present concordances based on that… Kindof a bummer - but it is what it is…
@SonOfAbraham, my D is another 219 hopeful in CT. I believe NMSF will send a letter to the semi-finalists. We are waiting until fall to send any apps. Good luck!! I hope 219 will be enough for CT!
@nocturne21 Awesome, thank you. NMSF will be a big boost to a college application. I’ve already started several but I will hold off until September to send them. I saw the predicted range for CT as 217-220, so we are definitely on the cusp!
@SonOfAbraham and @nocturne21 The NMSF will send information in September to schools, not to the semi-finalists themselves. Some schools are slow about getting the information to students, because they think that students aren’t supposed to know until the media knows.
Check on this thread in September for information about state cutoffs. We’ll figure it out first here. Homeschoolers are the first to know, because the letters to their “principal” go to their homes.
Also, typically most schools don’t finalize their essay supplements until August.
@Ynotgo, thanks, I will definitely stayed tuned in to this thread for state cut offs. I guess the letter comes from the school then and not NM.
Only 3 more months to go. Back in January, September seemed an endless wait but after an enjoyable summer, we should all finally know the cutoffs.
@paveyourpath – I have started thinking like that too – not forever at this point.
Now with all of the “senior” year emails from school I’m feeling like things are moving quickly. Starts apps and school visits, Sept will be here before we know it.
Going to check out U. of Miami, U. of Florida, maybe Vanderbilt and just enjoy the ride.lol! Good luck to everyone and all your children.
Same to you @snicks1234. Let us know how the visits go.
I will @paveyourpath and thanks for the education. If it doesn’t offend anyone,lol,I want to say it’s good to see so many wonderful,involved parents.
Everyone, I really hope that we all stay in touch through the admissions process. Would be wonderful to see where all your kids end up.
I just wanted to make sure the parents on here also also know about the Parents of the Class of 2017 thread at http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/class-20xx-community/1479899-parents-of-the-hs-class-of-2017.html#latest
We have a varied community (not all our kids are likely or borderline NMSF). But we have lots of fun, college visit reports, sometimes a Question of the Day (QOTD), and talk about our White Boards and/or Binders of Destiny. Parents are welcome to join in!
RE: Post 4793
This is exactly what happened to my D. She took the PSAT in 10th grade with no prep and got the equivalent of 570 (57) in math which was the 89th percentile. We were happy with that since she was just in Algebra II at the time. Over the next year she completed Algebra II, took a PSAT boot camp, reviewed the Official CB Study Guide, took three practice tests and went to a couple Saturday study sessions so when she got a 630, 93rd percentile on the new PSAT we though she was “on track.”
Since her PSAT was delayed she only had 4 weeks to prep for the mandatory in-school PSAT. No problem, she is “on-track” just load her PSAT results into Khan Academy and brush up on some weak areas.
On the March SAT she improved to a 640 on math (good job right?) but now she is in the 83rd in Math! How does that happen, that is lower than her 10th grade PSAT with no prep.
@CaucasianDad that just underscores how messed up all the information is. And the May “Final” concordance only makes things worse because it tells you that your D’s percentile was supposed to be 83% on the PSAT/NMSQT as well - which is ridiculous given her real percentile on the PSAT 10.
@thshadow is right - the new PSAT overestimates how you will do on the SAT when presented in terms of last year’s scores (which for this one year is our only context). However, we need to remember that even if scores go up in terms of absolute value on the new test(s) that wouldn’t necessarily translate into higher percentiles anyway. You need to increase by some given amount which accounts for the passage of time and the learning of more difficult material and/or additional prep. The SAT curve is shifted to the right relative to the PSAT. They are scaled the same, but there is an expected increase that you are supposed to hit in order to “stay on track”.
Has anyone received official confirmation as to what the new confirming score will be for NMS? Now that the NMSC has finished the 2016 program, they really should be able to provide us with this information so we can determine retakes of the SAT. If I have time later this afternoon, I will call. Just wondering if anyone else had asked them.
@MomNJof2 I know you had said that your child’s school normally gets about 20-25 commended students (in prior years). Now that commended has been released to be 209, do you know how many of the Class of 2017 of your child’s school are commended?
Since May concordance tables provides little guidance to NMSC SI cutoffs for the Oct 2015 PSAT, the only other remaining source of concordance we have is the PSAT/NMSQT State Summary Reports published at
https://research.collegeboard.org/programs/psat/data/cb-jr
CB has not yet released the 2015 reports, but if you look at the prior year (2014) data, one can see exactly how many students scored in various score ranges for (back then) CR, Math and Writing. For 2015 this will be EBRW and Math sections. We also know how many SF are given out for each state based on the student population contribution relative to national. Once these reports come out (who knows CB may not release one until September?!!), one can figure out appx EBRW and Math section scores to be in the running for each individual state. As an example, OH has appx 614 SF nominations, the link above shows the total number (46,975) of OH students who took the PSAT and their score distributions. It appears, in OH you needed to be ~ >=74 on CR, >=75 on Math and >=74 on Writing. These are appx scales and is further muddled up by variability of SI (which is what you need at NMSC) at each given total scores (2* EBRW + Math)/10 formula for current year. Of course, this assumes that a student who scored highest in one section also will LIKELY score highest in other sections, but that may be not always be true.