National percentile vs. SSAT pecentile?

<p>So, say I took the Princeton practice test, and got 94-96th percentile. On the chart, it says this is “Estimated National Average”. What is this in SSAT percentile terms?</p>

<p>Forget the estimated National percentile. It is not useful. I am not familiar with the princeton book, but only the SSAT percentile is used by schools.</p>

<p>I’m fully aware that the schools only use the SSAT percentile, that’s why I’m asking this question.</p>

<p>If I need to rephrase it, I will. How does the estimated national compare to the SSAT percentile?</p>

<p>I would say…
Conservative(Lowest) Estimate: 80 to 83
Liberal(What the upside would be) Estimate: 88-91</p>

<p>I have a friend that is in boarding school now… She told me her 99 national score was a 90 SSAT. That was on the Vocab I think… She said it generally applies to all three tests.</p>

<p>The only people who take the SSAT (I think) would be people applying to boarding school or other private schools for a better education. This means that they will most likely be a little bit smarter than the people who take the IOWAs or something just because they have to at school.
The National Percentile (I have been told) takes into account the whole NATION, not only the people who take the SSATs. Naturally, the National Percentile will be lower than the SSAT percentile.
So I think you’d have to lob off 10-3 points off your National Percentile to come out with your SSAT percentile. Just guessing.</p>

<p>interesting discovery-</p>

<p>i was looking at my ssat scores from last year, and compared the raw score and percentiles to the princeton book. they came out almost exactly the same. but the national percentile at the bottom of my ssat scores, was much higher than my ssat percentiles. for example i had 70 on the verbal which was a 92 national </p>

<p>i have no clue why the princeton book says estimated NATIONAL percentile</p>

<p>has anyone else noticed this?</p>

<p>Right suburban. I’d say that your ssat percentile would have to be pretty darn low to get below 90th nationally. When you start comparing the top 10% of kids in the country (which is essentially what the ssat does), there’s not much difference, points wise, between an 80 and a 90. The higher your ssat scores are, the less difference there is between them and the national rankings.</p>

<p>This year’s edition of the chart in the PR book is a little higher than the actual results my son got back. Every edition of the test is scored a bit differently, however. 45/50 correct does not always equal the same scaled score. I’m not sure how this works, but it has something to do with varying degrees of difficulty within different editions.</p>

<p>nope i got a 96 in the national percentile and that turned out to be a 72%ile on the SSAT</p>

<p>Some of this just isn’t computing right.
To me, once you get into the late 90’s, the score wouldn’t change that much in comparison to the SSAT %ile. A score of 2370 is a score of 2370 - no two ways about it. Once you get into the 80th and under percentile I can see it ranging greatlly, but the kids who take the SSATs are usually top 15% of the nation, meaning that late 90’s is still late 90’s.</p>

<p>Hey, we’re not in the “late 90’s” anymore, this is the late 00’s!</p>

<p>Lol… true, pardon my mistake lol.</p>

<p>The diffference between SSAT an national ranges changes depending on the score range. For example, (This is an approximate)

  1. if ssat percetile is higher than 95%, national percentile is pretty much 99%.-4% gap
  2. if ssat percetile is higher than 90%, national percentile is pretty much 97%.-7% gap
  3. if ssat percetile is higher than 85%, national percentile is pretty much 95%.-10% gap</p>

<p>The gap increase even more in the lower ranges.
In extreme case, if the ssat score is 50% , national percentile may be about 75%, –
25% gap</p>

<p>On my SSAT results I was like 98% in the nation for math translated to an 88 percent on SSAT. 94 % on verbal national translated to 74% and like 97% on reading translated to a 80 giving me an 83% overall.</p>

<p>Theres a huge gap between national and SSAT percentile.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t stress about the national percentile. It isn’t relative to boarding school admissions. It strikes me as a “guesstamite” anyways, reading the description from the SSAT members website:</p>

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[SSAT</a> MEMBERS WEBSITE](<a href=“http://www.memberanda.org/2006XXIV_NO1/10.asp]SSAT”>http://www.memberanda.org/2006XXIV_NO1/10.asp)</p>

<p>Thus, it isn’t a simple matter of subtracting a certain percentage, or dividing by one factor and multiplying by another. It’s the SSAT’s own formula, based on a research study. It probably compares your scores to the pool of SSAT scores earned by students of your gender and grade, and to a hypothetical national group of all the students in your grade. Each grade would have slightly different normal distributions of scores, so an 8th grade girl’s scores are compared to different pools than a 10th grade boy. </p>

<p>HOWEVER, don’t stress out about your “national percentile.” Anothermom2 is correct, it isn’t useful for schools, because such a large percentage of boarding school applicants are at the top of the scale.</p>

<p>“It isn’t relative to boarding school admissions.”</p>

<p>Insert germane or related for “relative” and the meaning is clear. </p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>I think I meant “relevant for.” My apologies. Should.not.comment.after.midnight.</p>