- Many schools which meet need require CSS NCP information. If one isn’t able to provide that info, they could try filing the NCP waiver petition. How does the college verify the accuracy of the information stated on the NCP waiver petition, how do they get to know that the applicant/family has provided the actual true facts? Is it through a 3rd party statement or an internal investigation or do they track the NCP somehow using public records and contact the NCP directly to verify if that’s true, how and what way do they verify the waiver?
- How does the college verify the amounts the applicant enters in the waiver petition against child support provided? Does the applicant need to submit bank statements, if it was a direct transfers and checks in case checks were issued by NCP?
- If the child is above 18 and faced medical exigencies and that the hospital bills were paid by the NCP using indirect transfer directly to the hospital (means the NCP provided the bill amount to a 3rd person and that person paid it to the hospital), then does that amount paid for treatment/hospital count towards child support, even though the divorce decree didn’t require it and that the child was now an adult, a major? The hospital is located outside the US, if it helps and it was the willingness or push from the custodial parent to help pay entirely for the medical bills.
- If the NCP transferred a few hundred dollars only once the past year to the custodial parent of their child even after the child turned above 18, does that count towards child support? Or what is that called?
- What happens in a hypothetical case where the applicant gets accepted along with the waiver, but the NCP contacts the college after few months or year(s) after getting to know about their child’s education status from social media and prove otherwise to the college?
- Many colleges requiring the CSS NCP info require a 3rd party document and many among them require it to be notarized. If the applicant is currently outside the US, can it be notarized by a foreign notary, sufficing the requirement?
- If the NCP had contacted the custodial parent the past year and not the child, does that count towards being a valid contact between the NCP and the applicant, even though the applicant didn’t establish contact with the NCP?
Non-custiodial and custodial parents CAN be asked to provide documentation to verify the information put on the financial aid application forms.
Waivers are not granted without documentation.
The colleges will determine IF your child is granted a waiver.
And contact between the parents IS considered contact.
Many schools require applying for the NCP annually because circumstances DO change…and if a child is granted a waiver one year…and then contact is re-established, the waiver probably won’t be granted in subsequent years.
I will give my opinion…if a parent is helping pay for medical expenses for the child, I can’t see how a NCP waiver would be granted.
It sounds like you are hoping for NCP waivers.
I would strongly suggest that you also look for places where your kiddo might qualify for merit aid which won’t hve anything to do with the Profile. Look at schools that don’t require the Profile. Look at public universities in your state that don’t require the Profile. Look for Profile schools that do not require the non-custodial parent form.
You are a HS junior living abroad. You need to discuss college costs with the parent(s).
You willneed to provide significant documentation to GET the waiver. The student and custodial parent fill out the request for the waiver…not the non-custodial parent.
Don’t lie.
Colleges can ask for documentation of ANY kind.
So…don’t lie.
If your non-custodial parent is paying medical expenses for you, you just might nit qualify for a waiver.
Why do you keep asking about child support? That is NOT the only “test” for getting a waiver…or not.
If that is the case, and you falsely got a waiver, your aid…AND your admission status might be revoked.
Again…don’t lie.
What are you talking about? The third party form is to get a waiver. The waiver request is NOT completed by the non-custodial parent.
Plus…on another thread, you say your non-custodial parent lives IN the United States. So why is this a concern for you?
The colleges will determine if you are eligible for a waiver. Honestly YOU not initiating the contact is not going tomget you a waiver.
Oh…one more thing…
If you really have a FAFSA EFC Of $0, and your custodial parent has very low income…it is highly likely you will be selected for verification. The schools will rightfully want to know how you are paying your living expenses, and who is paying those bills. So…I would suggest you have good documentation for that as well.
You are confusing the NCP paying child support, medical bills, etc with the applicant being unable to contact the NCP or knowing his location. MANY (many many) NCPs stop paying child support and refuse to participate with the finical aid application process once their children are 18 or when the court ordered support stops. Many non-divorced parents stop supporting their kids once they are out of high school too. That doesn’t make the applicant eligible for an NCP waiver. The NCP waiver is given when the applicant has no way of contacting the NCP or it is unsafe to do so.
From all the numbered items above, it appears you know how to reach the NCP, that there is no court order preventing him from contacting you and it is not unsafe for you to contact him.
Colleges do not have a detective team out looking for the NCPs. They grant the waver based on the info you give them - a letter from a guidance counselor saying no second parent is in the picture, from a divorce lawyer who can confirm that there is a court order of no contact allowed, medical records of abuse. Most FA decisions are based on information provided by the student - the college only knows about assets because they are reported, about that investment account because it is reported.
Why would that ever happen? The NCP wants to get the custodial parent in trouble? The NCP wants to pay the college back? Just doesn’t make any sense to me.
@thumper1, thank you for the answers. Yes, NCP lives in USA but when I have to get 3rd party statements, I’ll have to get them notarized by a notary in the country that I’m currently in. So my question is would that statement notarized by a foreign notary be valid? Also, should the 3rd party statement be get notarized by the 3rd party himself or can the applicant do that job? I’m not interested in misrepresentation of the case but what happens if the 3rd party does that to support the claims on the waiver petition? Because the college’s verification is based on 3rd party statement? And when you say documents are required to support facts on the waiver, do they also ask for statement of call logs, emails, personal meeting, etc?
@twoinanddone, in my case the NCP would do anything to get me and my custodial parent in trouble. This has happened several times before in different areas of life. It’s an extremely bitter relationship. NCP would celebrate if the custodial parent and the child were gone off from Earth, so that’s the situation like.
How does one determine whether it’s safe or unsafe to contact the NCP? In my case, there has been no court order (because NCP life threatened not to file physical abuses and court orders), but it would personally be unsafe for me to contact him and ask him his personal and financial details and get the CSS NCP from him? His relatives live around our neighborhood and we don’t want to get in trouble or any unsafe situation. Would the college agree to hear this as a reason?
@thumper1 , @twoinanddone I’m really confused on what’s a child support, what would a small money transfer to the CP after kid turns 18 and medical bill payments after kid turns 18 count as. On the NCP waiver petition forms, they ask a question when did the NCP last pay child support and how much?
If child support means only the amount court ordered and nothing else that he gives after the kid is 18+, which is amount x, should I report only x in the above question?
If child support means the amount court ordered and anything over 18+ age provision, which is amount x+c, where c is miscellaneous like medical bills, money transfer after kid is adult, then should I report x+c in the above question?
In my case when I had medical exigencies and the bill to be paid (here, health system is different from the US, it’s like you pay and you get the treatment, just like grocery shopping, you need to pay cash), was paid discretely just like the election news this year, the NCP didn’t give us the money for medical bill payment neither he paid directly from his bank in the US to the hospital’s bank in a different country, but the NCP transferred the money to a man who lives in the country/city that I’m currently in and is a general manager at a different branch of the same hospital, and that middle man paid it to the hospital for clearing bill amounts in my/custodial parent’s name, how would this support from the NCP be proved and get documented if it is to be shown on the petition contingent to response in para 3&4?
Also, if the divorce happened long time ago, say 15 years ago then the NCP should not be expected to support the child naturally, so is the length of the divorce (no. of years) a merit point in a waiver petition?
What if the 3rd party has vested interest and provides statements with notarized saying that no contact, nothing, etc , then how would the colleges know the truth? I want to know all this information so that I can be as clear, transparent and as accurate as possible to the colleges because I don’t want to suffer in any way down the line but it seems all the 3rd party people I know have vested interests and they want me to say no contact on the waiver petition and that they would support it through their notarized statements. Is it better I skip the CSS NCP colleges altogether to avoid the pressure from 3rd party people?
The schools do not care if the divorce happened 15 years ago or last week - the schools look to the parents to pay for the student’s education. The waivers are for students who have no way to contact their bio parents or who can’t make contact by court order. The schools are not going to judge whether the person is a good parent or not; if the person can be contacted, there has to be some reason for not asking that person to pay for college before granting the waiver. Because he doesn’t want to pay or doesn’t like you isn’t a good reason.
There are ways for you to avoid this - go to a FAFSA only school, go to a school outside the USA, pay for school yourself and don’t apply for FA. You have to play with the cards you are dealt.
Honestly, I don’t think it matters is you call the paying for medical bills as child support or not. You know how to contact your NCP, so I don’t think you’ll get a waiver. Schools don’t give a waiver because child support has stopped or because it hasn’t been paid in years. Many court ordered child support ends at age 18. Those students do not get a NCP waiver because those payments have stopped.
Notarizing a document in the US means that the signature is verified by a licensed notary. That’s it. Doesn’t mean all the information in the document is true or accurate, just that a notary saw ‘John Doe’ sign the document. In other countries, the notaries have more authority, but in the US not so much. If the school wants a statement notarized, they just want to know that Jane Doe signed the document.
Get the list of items the school requires for a NCP waiver and put that package together.
Unless you have police reports and things like no contact orders, you aren’t likely to be able to get a waiver in your situation. An NCP who won’t pay isn’t a reason to get a waiver. I think you are going to waste a lot of time on this, and probably won’t get any waivers.