ND mom asks women to stop wearing leggings

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/28/think-mothers-sons-notre-dame-mom-begs-female-students-stop-wearing-leggings-sparking-protests/?utm_term=.2f4b8d55ade7

You can’t make this stuff up. Though I wish someone had and put it in The Onion instead.

The poor son…

Both of my Ds proudly wore leggings on the protest day. :slight_smile:

Oh my, why would this woman open herself up for this!

So glad her sons were able to restrain themselves from the legging wearing hussies! Lol!

Maybe Notre Dame should have a dress code, uniforms!

How about she begs parents to teach their sons self-control?

Are you kidding? Most of the sons are happy with the current situation just as it is.

As the mother of sons - this is just absurd. What world does this lady live in where males are out of control around females in leggings?

In “Infidel: My Life,” a young Muslim woman is told her entire life that civilization will collapse if women ever show their ankles, arms, face. She eventually escapes to Holland and is quite shocked at how well things run - even the trains are always on time, unlike in her home country. She learned that men can restrain themselves!

Love the student response!

This bothers me the most:

In other words, only treat women with respect because they “belong” to someone else – a man.

Don’t they belong to their mothers and sisters as well?

Not only that the women are validated only by their association with a man, but that their clothing choices are made with men in mind.

It’s always interesting to me that so many Americans are horrified by Islamic traditions like the burka yet don’t seem to mind that many American customs are based on the same ideas. Islamic women are pressured not to reveal certain body parts because those parts are deemed too tempting for men to view; American women are pressured not to reveal different body parts because those parts are deemed too tempting for men to view. The only difference is which body part(s) the culture finds too scandalous and whether the punishment is death or just slut shaming.

i will say though, in catholic HSs near us there are dress codes; and in European cathedrals there are dress codes. Maybe this lady is used to those parameters?

recently i was slightly taken back by the crop tops and leggings at my son’s public HS; I overheard my DH (who was raised in an all boys school) ask our S if he had a hard time concentrating with all the leggings and short t-shirts; and he said “Yeah.”

I know that if leggings/crop tops had been a thing in college in the late 80s, my 20 year old self would have been sporting that look; and my parents probably would have been appalled. For those who see it all the time, they grow used to it. The first few times you see the look, it sort of takes you back.

It amazes me how women can control themselves around “distracting” men but somehow some flesh (or even the reminder that it’s there) makes men unable to carry on as normal.

Frankly, opinions like the mother in the OP are just an insult to men. I happen to think boys and men can and will be fine as long as they’re taught that others bodies are not there for their consumption.

I agree with the young woman quoted in the article that this kind of thinking shifts the blame of impropriety.

And last I saw, men have “behinds” too, and sometimes wear tight clothes, or sometimes clothes so baggy that we see their underwear. Yet somehow women are able to go about living their days without distraction and undo sexual aggression towards men.

The boys raised by this kind of mother are who worry me for my daughter’s safety.

With the vast majority of people on this site being women, these conversations tend to devolve quickly into a group-think mentality. So let me provide one male’s perspective.

If women want to wear leggings, they are free to do so. But make no mistake in that many men enjoy watching women wearing them. This has nothing to do with men treating women as objects, or targets of sexual aggression. Instead it is just that most men are attracted to women, and certain body parts in particular. And these men will include your sons, whether they admit it or not.

From the article:

Alternative interpretation:

Woman realizes that she spent an entire church service ogling the behinds of a group of other women, and this is the result of the mental gymnastics she went through to avoid the more obvious conclusion.

I confess that when I read the thread title I assumed that this was going to be one of things condemning older women for wearing leggings, and I was all fired up! :smiley:

I mean, don’t we have the right to wear clothes to be comfortable, not to advertise our bodies or appeal to other people’s ideas about what is “hot or not”? It’s like the people who complain about people daring to go to the beach in any kind of a swimsuit who are overweight or unfit or whatever. They are not there for you to look at! They are there to enjoy the pool/ocean! Mind your own business!!

It’s really part and parcel of the same thing.

Thanks @hebegebe!