Need a math person on this one. :)

So, say a state school accepts only 18% of the applicants from out of state. Of that 18%, 90% are athletes or have other very valuable ( to the school ) skills… what percentage of kids from out of state who fit none of that criteria have a chance to get accepted?

Of those who don’t apply, zero.

If your student is interested in applying from out of state to, say, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill or the University of Virginia, all the student needs to know is that it’s an extreme reach school and plan accordingly. But there’s no harm in applying, and some excellent students do indeed get accepted. Just not very many of them.

The chance of acceptance is LOW but if you don’t apply, youncant get accepted. UNC-CH, and UVA have very low acceptance rates for OOS students.

3%. But the 90% you state is probably an inflated number and in reality not that high

Just substitute simple numbers into the equation.

the school accepts 1000 students
it can only accept 18% OOS = 180
if 90% of those OOS are hooked students (athletes, legacies, URMs) 180 * .90 = 162

how many slots are left for OOS unhooked applicants?

180-162 = 18 slots

or you can do 180 (students) *.10 (percentage unhooked) = 18 slots

180-162 = 18

My CA daughter was accepted to UNC Chapel Hill, offered a scholarship (maybe the typical OOS one - I don’t rememeber) and some research thing there, it happens, but as mentioned, you have to apply. On the other side,while it is a fantastic school, she didn’t attend because 1) even with scholarship, paying way more than everyone else for any OOS public school seemed crazy to us and 2) there were too many students from one state there (diversity seemed limited to her). So there are several equations to consider in choosing an OOS school.

And keep in mind that 50% of that 18 will be male and 50% female.

^That depends on the school. Some schools have a shortage of males while others have a shortage of females.

In 2016, the main UNC campus accepted over 1,700 out-of-state applicants. (And didn’t, by the way, come close to filling 18% of its entering class with out-of-state students.) There’s no way 90% of them were athletic recruits or anything similar to that. Maybe 20%. There are about as many admissions slots for unhooked out-of-state students at UNC as there are at Dartmouth.

Sounds like a great SAT question!

Depends how many (or what percentage) of the applicants are “unhooked.” If (in the prior example) 18 unhooked are admitted, but only 18 of the 1000 applicants were unhooked, then 100% of the unhooked applicants got in! (Unlikely but possible.) But if ALL of the hooked applicants got in, that means there were only 162 hooked applicants, so 18/(1000-162) or 2.1% of the unhooked applicants got in. Could be anywhere between 2.1% and 100%. (Actually its5a little more complicated, because if a hooked applicant doesn’t get in on the hook, they could still be competing against the unhooked.)

You can manipulate numbers/statistics any way you want to. Hopefully this is just a silly thought exercise and not being used in the college search.

@AbsDad

Let’s just say at places like UNC-CH (where one of your twins is looking) and UVA…chances are very low…and these should not be match or safety schools.