<p>West Chester ? Bucknell ? Susquehanna ?? Moravian ? My seeking- music- degree Senior S GPA 4.38 (W), SATs ( won’t take them again, won’t take SAT II’s ) : 740 Writing ,670 Math, Wr: 670 , 6 APs scored 3 in public magnet high school ECs : rugby , Orchestra , Environmental clubs. </p>
<p>He is a die-hard vegetarian , politically liberal , not Greek type, needs aid. We got the NY State schools narrowed down ; looking for PA ones .</p>
<p>Lehigh? Muhlenberg?
Moravian is not crunchy.</p>
<p>Neither is Bucknell. </p>
<p>Swarthmore is, but the stats may not be in line.</p>
<p>Not Lehigh. He’ll find some kindred souls at Muhlenberg, but I’d say “crunchiness” is still a minority there.</p>
<p>Oh no, not Bucknell.</p>
<p>Haverford?</p>
<p>Wow, we are seriously lacking in the crunchy factor in PA colleges. I live close to Moravian, Muhlenberg and Lehigh and I wouldn’t call any of them especially laid back, liberal or crunchy. Of those three, Muhlenberg is probably the most liberal. They have a respected theatre program if that helps. I’m going to have to think about crunchy PA schools!</p>
<p>Sorry for my sarcasm - but as one who was on my own since 17 - and learned and paid for things the hard way, I meet this post with a bit of reluctance. Let’s see - he wants to major in music - fine enough if that is what he wants but clearly a field with limited employment prospects. He also must have a sufficiently crunchy (read belief in some sort of forced income redistribution) environment, and then must get aid to support this self indulgent vision? Gee, life is rough. Again, I post this at the risk of sounding insensitive but the query reeks of an entitlement mentality that I just can’t easily comprehend.</p>
<p>Um…excuse me, but plenty of crunchy vegetarians do not live off the dole. Just because someone wants to be a musician doesn’t mean that they expect the government to support them. In fact, I think demographically, you’d find the exact opposite to be true.</p>
<p>There’s no sarcasm in your post at all, but it was off the mark, based on all the crunchy musician vegetarians <em>I</em> know (many, quite intimately ;))</p>
<p>Mam–Wow, I guess anyone applying for aid better prove they’re choosing an economically correct major before they expect to get it. Maybe they should work on forelock-tugging, while they’re at it.</p>
<p>easydoesit–I’m having similar problems coming up with some–I’d definitely give a try to Haverford and Swarthmore, and of the next level, I’d agree with Muhlenburg–a very liberal, theater type I know just started there and loves it, and got good aid.</p>
<p>Consider looking just one state away, right next door to PA, and you’ll find Oberlin…perfect.</p>
<p>i’m a very liberal vegetarian myself, and PA is surprisingly tough.
you should definitely cross off lehigh, lafayette, bucknell, f&m, villanova</p>
<p>possibly: haverford, swarthmore, dickinson, muhlenberg, ursinus</p>
<p>temple and penn st are big enough that there will be significant populations of liberals</p>
<p>Elizabethtown!!
No greeks, founded by Church of the Bretheren, I think, very pacifist.
The funny thing is that this was not a fit for my son for this exact reason.</p>
<p>I’ll just ignore that sarcastic post . It’s actually not funny when one does not think through their comments , not knowing the circumstances of each & individual poster . I always found ( for many years now ) the people on CC very helpful and non-judgemental .</p>
<p>I love the idea of Swarthmore & Haverford & Oberlin . But do you think his stats are good enough for such high-caliber schools ?? Thanks for suggestions , everyone . I think we will steer clear of Bucknell. Not being able to travel to these campuses until Spring break , we really have to pick some back-ups . Is Muhlenburg comparable to an Ithaca type of college ?? </p>
<p>My first child is about to graduate as a Philosophy major so I look at Music Education as a somewhat more practical profession (-:</p>
<p>Speaking of Dickinson , I heard that the President of Dickinson did something quite controversial ( admirable ?) recently . Could someone refer me to what he did ?</p>
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<p>Take heart. My freshman daughter is planning on majoring in Classics. :)</p>
<p>I don’t know enough about any of them to make a real recommendation, but you might want to check out Albright (in Reading – I know some crunchy types who went there years ago), Arcadia (just outside Philly), Franklin & Marshall (Lancaster, but seems to want to be more of a Haverford or Hamilton-type school than many of the others mentioned and rejected so far).</p>
<p>My nephew graduated three years ago from Northwestern U. with a music major and he has been continuously employed. First he worked for the Chicago Lyric Opera, then for the Composers Forum in St. Paul. At the same time he worked as a church choir director. Now he is in graduate school for choral conducting.</p>
<p>The son of a friend of mine majored in electronic music at Brown, and got a job right after graduation working for a cellular communications company developing ring tones!</p>
<p>easydoesitmom, (boy,that’s a long name!)
I think you could say that Muhlenberg is sort of like Ithaca, probably warmer but the finger lakes region of NY is prettier. Swat is one of those reach for everybody schools. I think of Haverford as pretty preppy but probably very liberal. If you visit Haverford, you might as well visit Villanova - they are within ten minutes of each other. I actually drove by both campuses yesterday. </p>
<p>btw, my daughter is a liberal vegetarian into ecology. imho, crunchy means someone that questions authority and seeks their own path. I was pretty crunchy back in the day. Not a negative!</p>