NESCAC Spoken Here:

Well, it happened again. ESPN SportsCenter nightly Top 10 plays featured Bates soccer on Sep. 10. This time, it was the men. To have DIII soccer show up twice in a couple weeks is pretty amazing.

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So
not everyone agrees:

Mr. Roth’s prescription for providing a safe space for the expression of political viewpoints on campus is nothing if not admirable, and might even work at a small liberal arts school like Wesleyan where civil discussions may be possible. But given the current environment and what we’ve witnessed happening on many of the larger campuses across the country, his approach seems simplistic and detached from reality.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/12/opinion/gossip.html?searchResultPosition=2#link-2dc4052d

This Times Reader may have a point, considering the NESCAC Gaza protests all ended peacefully while there were thousands of arrests all across the country.

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As the Jewish parent of a Jewish college student, I feel compelled to say that this an extraordinarily bleak view, reflecting a hostility to peaceful protest and free speech that is sadly not surprising given the writer’s previous statements on this topic.

I’ll add that the reason NESCAC protests were resolved peacefully could simply be that they were not the focus of national press attention; did not suffer from the sort of external provocations and exploitation by bad actors seen at larger, higher-profile institutions; and were not as likely to be used as political pawns as public institutions. The fact that external actors—including the writer of this letter—created circuses at these universities should not result in the abrogation of the rights of students on those campuses to free expression.

Finally, I work at a high profile institution that managed to avoid the sorts of confrontations seen at many other campuses, and the reason was a combination of luck, commitment to free expression, and really deft leadership. It’s possible.

I suspect we are on the verge of being chastised for going off-topic, so that’s all I’ll say on this.

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I like the poem here –

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Me, too. As you can imagine, it’s a popular spot for graduation photos. I should probably get in line now :wink:

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It means the sports marketing department is on top of things and submitting great plays.

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It’s a very pretty spot on that campus. I agree.

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Let the games begin.

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I also like this line from Psalm 95, which is etched above the Middlebury chapel portico:
“the strength of the hills is his also”

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Ok! You don’t have to ask me twice. Women’s Golf! Here I’ll post the results from the Bowdoin Invitational Women’s Golf Tournament aka the Polar Bear Shootout. My agenda is that I want to support women’s golf in general and I’d love to see the NESCAC schools get better at this sport. So here goes:

1st - Williams
4th - Bowdoin
5th - Middlebury
6th - Amherst
7th - Wesleyan
8th - Bates
9th - Trinity

I don’t believe Hamilton was at this particular tournament, but they have a pretty good golf team, carrying a pre-season ranking of #21. Other pre-season NESCAC national rankings were Williams #6, Amherst #11, and Middlebury #22.

Wellesley and Babson finished 2nd and 3rd, if you care, which you shouldn’t because this is the NESCAC thread.

Middlebury hosts the George Phinney Classic this weekend, where several (all?) of these schools will be playing each other again. I’ll be following, in part because it appears Wesleyan has a fantastic freshman golfer who is tearing it up.

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What kind of practice puts 12 members of the Tufts men’s lacrosse team in the hospital?

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Wow. That’s serious. And we all know what caused it. Oregon got sued over this very thing a few years ago when Wild Willie Taggart ran practices so harsh that a few players came down with this condition. And that’s a major D1 football powerhouse. What was this guy thinking?

PS: it causes pretty serious & permanent kidney damage. and I don’t think the Oregon case produced 12 injured players. my goodness, this trainer must have been out of his mind.

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Indeed. Lawsuits coming I would expect. Hope the 5 athletes still in the hospital heal completely.

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There’s a lesson here boys and girls: you have to advocate for yourself and never, ever, ever, completely give yourself over to a coach if it’s not clear they have your best interests in mind.

My D was suffering lower back pain during her club years at about U14 or 15. Fortunately, we’d been through it before with her sister (same build) and suspected on-coming overuse injury. There is one, and only one, way to treat overuse and that is to shut down your athlete and rest (while carefully working on core strengthening). Anyway, her coach, who we still really like, tried in vain to discourage me from taking her to the doctor. I pressed, and she said, “they’ll just tell her she has to stop playing for a couple of months,” which was accurate 
 that is in fact what they prescribe. If you keep going, it will get worse, not better.

I blew her off of course, and D did sit out some time. But the coaches have pressure to get their teams to excel and not be relegated to a lower division of play (this was before she was elevated to ECNL). At any rate, you have to take care of yourself. Nobody else is going to do it for you.

So with this exhaustion training crap (which, btw, is a huge culprit for overuse injuries as well), you have to be careful. If your coach / trainer isn’t allowing sufficient hydration and recovery, you have to raise your hand. Hard, I know. But these Tufts players now are staring down the barrel of life-long disability because of what this trainer decided they needed to do.

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Can you expand on this?

Overexertion causing muscle breakdown, I believe.

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Rhabdo can result from overexertion, trauma, medications or an underlying health condition. Right out of the book. When one person out of many doing the same workout comes down with it, there may be an underlying susceptibility to it or it may be due to a medication they are taking, etc. etc. When 12 people doing the same workout come down with it, it is at least reasonable to assume it was the workout. So, I overplayed my hand by saying “we all know,” because we don’t all really know anything. But those facts, based on what I’ve read and been told about it, are strongly suspicious (at least) of overexertion with insufficient recovery and hydration. The toxins that build up in your body as your muscles are literally dying are hard on (damaging to) the kidneys. I think there are other complications, but that - kidney damage - is a possible (I previously wrote common and changed it because I don’t keep biostats) resulting injury from rhabdo. Google Doug Brenner and Rhabdo.

It’s a scary condition and one you want to avoid.

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Easy enough to make that leap.

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Let’s call it a reasonable inference of cause worthy of suspicion. It would be enough for me to at least ask more questions and, if my kid suffered kidney damage, engage counsel.

I should hasten to add that I sincerely hope nobody in this thread has a son involved in this. Though my heart goes out to all of them and their families.

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