<p>how do I start a thread?</p>
<p>on the “parent’s forum” page there is a button on the upper left side of the screen, below the “hot Topics” section that says “start thread” or something like that. click on it and start typing! :)</p>
<p>S was accepted & is attending UMASS Amherst with I think a 3.3 (I never did figure how to calculate these things). No merit pretty much for those in this thread, a good value for in state, probably not too bad in comparison to others for OOS. I think this school is getting a bit iffy for those in this thread range, especially for certain programs. They do guarantee a Jan general admit to those waitlisted now.</p>
<p>S and some others in this thread were accepted to UVM - pricey for OOS.</p>
<p>Not sure if this is of interest for those out of state, but UMASS Lowell has a decent science/engineering program, and is a match in this thread range.</p>
<p>I suggest listing all the possible public schools will be too long a list–it will be at least 200 schools.</p>
<p>In general, is it fair to say that the only state schools kids in this range will have find impossible getting into OOS are UNC; UVA; William & Mary; UMich; all of almost all UCAL schools; UTex; UILL; UWis; and UDel; with UMD; UConn; Penn State Main; Ohio State; Rutgers; SUNY Binghamton; Pitt; and Temple being difficult? I am certainly not an expert, so I may have missed many.</p>
<p>I have it from a ridiculously reliable source that a 3.0-3.3 OOS kid has very good chances at Binghamton for EA…please don’t ask me to reveal the source; just trust me on this one…do not cross this one off…</p>
<p>also, OP’s son I think will be attending UMD…</p>
<p>Rodney is right re:Binghamton and OOS. Much easier to get in than if instate.</p>
<p>For some reason bright OOS students do not find Binhamton particularly appealing despite its excellent academics and dirt cheap price for OOS students in comparison to places like Penn State, Vermont and Maryland.</p>
<p>^^true, true…but given the stats on this thread, the latter three you mention are not truly realistic (well, maybe Vermont)</p>
<p>Yes, I agree with Rodney and holliesue about Binghamton. </p>
<p>Also, I would not have thought that Temple is difficult for this crowd to get admitted to, yabeyabe, but I could be wrong.</p>
<p>I know some students who would fall into this group who got into UVM, but yes, it is expensive for OOS.</p>
<p>Re SUNY Binghamton’s lack of appeal for OOS kids: location, location, location…I dangled Binghamton in front of my son, but he was uninterested just based on wiki-ing the city, and driving through on the way to Ithaca didn’t change his mind. I’m sure when you’re actually living there, there are many things to recommend the place, but to a kid like my son, it just seemed like a nondescript old town in the middle of nowhere, big enough to have the disadvantages of a city but not the advantages.</p>
<p>Funny thing is that I can think of many private schools in the middle of nowhere, and the costs could end up costing more than for Bing if one comes from out of state for NY, but that would depend upon stats and EFC!</p>
<p>Our family decided not to have our son apply to SUNYs as an out of state student because of their recent price increases to out of state students. Our son had several private school offers that are costing less than out of state sticker prices at SUNYs.</p>
<p>Nightchef- I have lived here all my life. It isnot the greatest place. Without the university events it would be much worse! I do think that it is a good school and there is tons to do at the university!</p>
<p>Yabeyabe…I’m realizing that it’s too hard to generalize. The GPA is only a part of the story, and the school that the GPA is coming from (in addition to the courses taken to yield that GPA) can make a big difference as well. I will tell you that my son was admitted to UDel, UMD, Penn State main campus, UConn, and Pitt. Based on the stats of other students from his school, I’m certain he would have been admitted to Wisconsin had he chosen to apply. Temple would have been a safety. But again, the school can make a huge difference (our school profile shows that average weighted GPA is a 3.0…big difference versus a school with an average GPA of 3.5 or higher). The relationships the school has can also be telling. No one from our district has ever been admitted to UCLA, for instance, no matter what the grades. OTOH, every kid who has ever applied to Binghamton (not many) has been accepted…many GPAs in the 3.0 range and even lower.</p>
<p>A long time ago, when I first came to CC seeking advice, I had a whole thread of parents telling me that there was no way my son would be admitted to most of the schools he ended up getting into. That’s because no one really knows the whole story, and why it’s so helpful to look through threads like these to find kids that may be similar to your kid. But even then, there is so much “black box” in this all that it can be disconcerting!</p>
<p>RTR, I don’t believe your son is a typical student in this group, because in my opinion your son did very well on his standardized testing. Many students with a 3.2 or a 3.3 from out of state, I believe will have a hard time getting into the main campus at Penn State, getting into UMD, and UCONN (depending upon major and state). Also, if a student from a New England state is applying to a school in a mid-atlantic state, it might help. </p>
<p>I agree that all GPAs are far from equal, so school and courses taken do matter.</p>
<p>NEmom…I agree that his scores made his profile more uneven…although when I started the thread that was sort of my point…what about those 3.0 to 3.3 kids that have talents in other areas? But that thread I referenced…the one where I was told there wasn’t much hope for my son…was a thread where I disclosed all of his scores and activities. (In fact, looking back, I really disclosed too much for a public forum such as this one…I’m more careful now.) I’ll bet that most of the parents here in this thread have kids that are doing some amazing things that don’t show up in their GPA!</p>
<p>rodney – Vermont is certainly doable for a 3.0 – 3.3 student with average test scores. We have a fair number of students in our area who have been admitted and are going there with stats like this, and many of these kids were light on honors and AP courses in high school. The downside is that they are paying close to full price ($42K for OOS). </p>
<p>We’ve also had a couple of kids get into Maryland with B+ averages, but the ones I know had SATs in the 1200 (out of 1600) range and took a fairly rigorous HS courseload.</p>
<p>Thanks for the additional posts. </p>
<p>For a kid who wants to attend a school with big time sports to watch and root for…Binghamton, Delaware, UMAss and UVM don’t make it. I realize there are student bodies passionate about whatever sports teams those schools have…and…in some of the less followed sports, they have top notch teams…but some kids still consider football and basketball to be the top dogs.</p>
<p>At our HS, there are some of the OOS flagships and near flagships that are much more favorable to our B+ students…even those with avg 550 - 600 SAT’s and few or no AP’s. Since many of these schools admit almost exclusively on HS record and test score, Naviance (which we fortunately have) can give some idea of admission. But…some of he more out of the way schools don’t have a large enough applicant group to show up on Naviance. I was just hoping to get some idea of where students have been admitted.</p>
<p>I should probably start a 3.0 - 3.3 GPA, 500 - 600 (1500 - 1800) SAT, 3 or less AP, wants Big Time sports program thread…</p>
<p>At our NJ HS, only about 3 kids a year apply to Binghamton–with 30+ often applying to UDel, PSU, UConn and UMD. It simply does not generate buzz among GCs, parents and kids, despite being a very good school and more affordable than many of those. Although it does not offer UConn or Penn State level sports, neither do either UDl or UMass (which gets 20 applications a year).</p>
<p>I agree Temple is at the lower end of difficulty among the group I mentioned, although CC’er Diontechristmas has argued otherwise.</p>
<p>There does seem to be a consensus that there are very few publics out of the range of these kids.</p>
<p>yabeyabe, same is true in our hs regarding Bing vs. UDel/UConn/PSU/UMD.</p>
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<p>The above stats that boysima describes above are what I see as “typical” for the 3.0-3.3 crowd.</p>
<p>R2R, regarding 3.0-3.3 doing amazing things that do not show up in the stats, I agree with you. That is the problem with naviance in general. It does not show you who needs FA, who is an URM, who is offering geographic diversity, who is an athlete, who plays lead and supporting roles in school plays, who won all state for xyz, who is the #1 debater in your county/region, who the top chess players are, who earned the Gold Award/Eagle, who plays piano/guitar, etc. outside of school, who is an amazing artist, and so on.</p>
<p>boysima, how about looking into: U of Nebraska, U of Oklahoma, U of Alabama, U of Oregon, some in FLA (not sure which), maybe Syracuse (not communications school though), and I don’t know hard it is to get into U of Georgia, Virginia Tech would be a reach</p>
<p>First post on here and this seems like the perfect thread for it…</p>
<p>My S is about a 3.3 GPA junior with a desire to enter a Biomedical Engineering or related major. He is an active member of a research course and would like a research school, but that is not a factor that would eliminate a college. He received a 690 Critical Reading score and a 640 Math score on his first attempt and could probably do better in both. Due to a switch in school from private to public he has no AP’s but plans on taking 2 next year. He is also a athlete with 2 years of varsity football already, 1 of lacrosse and has been pretty active in community service but not so much in clubs. What are a few colleges that would fit him?</p>
<p>NY and NC resident btw</p>