<p>So then there’s a rogue cop? Because it’s been repeated multiple times here that one cop was ready to arrest him. Must have been some sort of investigation???</p>
<p>And the point is: this is only a national issue because of who was involved. You eliminate skin color and the whole thing disappears. It doesn’t become a 32+ page fiasco on here.</p>
<p>You eliminate the racist record of the Sanford police department and the thing might disappear.</p>
<p>The reason I asked about the Neighborhood Watch was not a legal one. I’m just trying to wrap my head around Zimmerman, and trying to figure out how he could find himself in this position to begin with. I expect he was a reasonably good guy with a limited universe, who felt good about himself when making believe he was a policeman and carrying his gunlet, racist in his stereotyping but probably no more so than the people around him, who really thought he was doing the right thing and thinking he was doing his friends at the Police Department a favor. He had a long-standing relationship with the PD, apparently, and so it wouldn’t be surprising if the PD bent over backwards in dealing with him. After all, it was only a black kid in a hoodie, likely up to no good.</p>
<p>If Martin were white and Zimmerman had been picked up, you’d have another set of like-minded voices, demanding that the white police be investigated for harassing Hispanics that Zimmerman would have been classified as under those circumstances.</p>
<p>hops, one cop thought he should be arrested. He was overruled by the DA, who didn’t believe there was enough evidence. And that would have been the end of it, if not for the national outcry. Zimmerman would have gotten away with killing an unarmed kid, based, by his own account, on race, clothing, and some vague “suspicious” behavior. And please note: It was ZIMMERMAN who first brought race into this.</p>
<p>This is why citizens shouldn’t take the law into their own hands, as the SYG laws allow them to do. If Zimmerman had stayed in his car and let professional law enforcement handle it, the cops would have stopped Trayvon, seen that he was unarmed and doing nothing illegal, and presumably let him continue on his way home with his Skittles.</p>
<p>So when do people quit crying out “there was no investigation” on here? A poor investigation, maybe so, but an investigation was undertaken… </p>
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<p>You mean when the dispatcher asked for a description of the individual?</p>
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<p>Won’t disagree with you. You all think I am on Zimmerman’s side here and that I think he did nothing wrong. I don’t. I just don’t like playing investigator, jury, judge, and executor online like many of you do. </p>
<p>He may very well have screwed up and should be charged with murder, etc. But I don’t agree with the Sharptons and Jacksons of the world flocking and making this a national issue. Murders of 17 year olds are not a national story…</p>
<p>hops, I agree with you that murders are sadly common and in many places, Trayvon Martin’s death wouldn’t even have made the front page of the local paper. I think this particular murder has become a national story because it’s emblematic of a larger problem. Trayvon is now the face of SYG, a law which I’ll hazard a guess many of us (most of us?) had never heard of two weeks ago. It’s now horrifyingly clear what the NRA hath wrought. </p>
<p>I hope the publicity will result in justice for Trayvon. Even more important, I hope it results in these laws being repealed.</p>
It is a WARNING that when Al Sharpton gets involved, innocent people, particularly Jews, tend to be victimized and sometimes die. Al Sharpton should not be allowed in polite company and he should be no one’s spokesman.</p>
<p>Sharpton is a racist pig…this story is sooo overblown it’s disgusting. I just don’t get why so many liberals get so hysterical over white on black violent crime when black on white violent crime is 50 times more likely to occur.</p>
<p>Zimmerman would have probably acted in the same manor no matter what the skin color of the person in the hoodie. Standing up and actually trying to protect your neighborhood is not a bad thing…too bad more people don’t get involved instead of letting their neighborhoods go to helll.</p>
<p>If he did commit a crime, like I stated before…I hope he rots in jail…BUT I will not rush to judgement.</p>
<p>Help me understand - outrage over black leaders seeking prosecution for what most reasonable people would consider a murder is more justifyable than outrage over the murder of an unarmed innocent teen?</p>
<p>There you go again. Presuming that most reasonable people would consider this to be a “murder.” It is quite reasonable to assume that Trayvon did nothing wrong other than come face-to-face with Zimmerman (he was shot in the chest, not the back), Zimmerman reasonably felt threatened, and the cops just did their job. I am not presuming that this is what happened, but it would certainly be reasonable for most people to make that presumption.</p>
<p>mini,
I’m just curious, as I try to wrap my head around peoples’ presumptions that the Sanford cops are racists. Are they just racist against Blacks? But not Hispanics or Jewish people? Is there a presumption out there that Zimmerman, being Jewish, is obviously racist against Blacks (isn’t that a common racist/anti-Simetic stereotype?)</p>
<p>mini…this guy was a neighborhood watch dog, any suspicious person wearing a hoodie would have drawn his attention…it’s apparently what he did. It isn’t and doesn’t always have to be about race.</p>
<p>Race does impact treatment. After this story was in the news I heard an African American gentlemen interviewed and he discussed being with a white friend of his who was pulled over by the police and being shocked at how his friend “spoke” to the officer. </p>
<p>I have also posted in the past about my time delivering newspapers for several years and how an African American co-worker was pulled over by the police a significant number of times but I was never pulled over. We both drove the same type of car and did the same job. We delivered routes where the carrier had quit and got them ready for a new carrier. That meant we were out a 3 am in various neighborhoods trying to determine if this was a house that should get the paper. Now I wonder why he seemed to get a police check but it never happened to me?</p>