<p>I’m more interested in evaluating the law, frankly.</p>
<p>it’s a horrible law.</p>
<p>There’s no reason to continue to evaluate the case. The media did it’s job and now they are investigating. It’s not our job to investigate, just to make sure they do their job.</p>
<p>But the law is dangerous for anyone who even visits florida, imho.</p>
<p>I agree with poetgrl that the law is dangerous and I suggest that a parent might want to investigate the SYG/Castle laws of any location their child is considering for college or for visiting on breaks.</p>
<p>I’d also factor in the carry laws and number of permits of the different states. As the posts indicate, there are hundred of thousands of people in Florida, Texas and Pa. who are holders of current carry permits. In Fla., the acts that can cause a permit not to issue or to be revoked are very limited.</p>
<p>I also think that a discussion with a student of what to do if you think you are being stalked/followed is well advised. Have a plan. </p>
<p>Have 911 pre-dialed in your phone. My S while in college was followed by 2 guys when he was walking home in the early a.m… He did not run and they slapped the cell phone out of his hand before demanding his wallet, so make it quick–in my opinion call as soon as you have the slightest concern. </p>
<p>Get in the middle of a lighted street, if not suicidal. Its a long story, but a buddy and I got attacked by a teen pack in downtown Lima, Peru one night. To escape we ran into the middle of the hugh prominade street waving our arms, etc. It worked.</p>
<p>Make noise calling out for help. I know it did not work in the Trayvon/Z case but it probably could increase the chance that the other will flee or “calm down.”</p>
<p>Does any recall who coined the term ‘Zigilante?’</p>
<p>re: Carry Reciprocity Act of 2012</p>
<p>It would be nice if we Americans could agree on a few basics. I inherited an antique target pistol which had been in a state that did not require it to be registered. The deceased had inherited it from his father, who died in the 1970s. All of my inquiries about how to transport the antique to CT started out “Well first you have to get the gun registered in the state it is now. And you can’t register it there because you’re not a resident there.” Nice. A relative volunteered to have it registered in his name if I could establish the chain of ownership … which involved re-opening the estates. All for an item I could buy online for $400.</p>
<p>As for reciprocal carry, be aware that CT police have a very different view of “Legal Carry” than police in other states. If there’s a complaint about public carry, they have a habit of “holding” the pistol. Not confiscation exactly, but typical time to retrieve is fifteen months. The practice is so prevalent that it’s covered in NRA Basic Pistol courses here.</p>
<p>“A man cannot be condemned for engaging in lawful activity.”</p>
<p>He can’t be convicted in a court of law; he can be condemned in the eyes of the public. There are plenty of foolish, reckless legal acts. I think that, if his own version of the facts is true, Zimmerman was foolish and reckless, and a child died as a result. I do condemn him for that.</p>
<p>I actually agree with that.</p>
<p>Even if he ends up “not guilty,” he will never be innocent in my opinion.</p>
<h1>824 NewHope33, I think the purpose of the Carry Reciprocity Act 2012, currently before the Senate, is to have the Florida law accepted in all 50 states, overriding individual state laws, if the visitor has a Florida license. I think it also conflicts with the laws in NYC and maybe elsewhere. Conn law would be irrelevant, as I understand it.</h1>
<p>Needless to say, contact your state senator to weigh in on how you want him to vote.:)</p>
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<p>As I read the summary of the CRA of 2012, it would require that each state recognize the carry permit of all other states. In other words, you can take your 9mm along on vacation and carry it in all states and be “legal.” </p>
<p>It does provide that the law of the locality (not the law of the state of the permit) would control any limitations on where carry was not allowed.</p>
<p>They could pair it with reciprocity for gay marriage. ;)</p>
<p>I remember this case when it happened in New Orleans, glad to see justice served here. Note the actions these officers took to make the shootings appear justified. I realize this is a different situation, but highly relevant nonetheless. </p>
<p>[5</a> Ex-Police Officers Sentenced In Katrina Shootings : NPR](<a href=“http://www.npr.org/2012/04/04/150008465/five-ex-police-officers-sentenced-in-katrina-shootings?sc=nl&cc=brk-20120404-1542]5”>http://www.npr.org/2012/04/04/150008465/five-ex-police-officers-sentenced-in-katrina-shootings?sc=nl&cc=brk-20120404-1542)
Five former New Orleans police officers were sentenced Wednesday to prison terms ranging from six to 65 years for their roles in deadly shootings of unarmed residents on a bridge after Hurricane Katrina.</p>
<p>A federal jury convicted the officers in August 2011 of civil rights violations in the shootings on the Danziger Bridge and the cover-up.</p>
<p>Police shot six people, killing two, less than a week after the storm’s landfall on Aug. 29, 2005. To make the shootings appear justified, officers conspired to plant a gun, fabricate witnesses and falsify reports.</p>
<p>I can see it now-- The Sexual Preference and Handgun Portability Act of _____. Can you imagine if there was no “line item veto” on this.</p>
<p>Little pink NRA stickers?</p>
<p>I actually just thought to myself, “There ought to be a law against these laws.”</p>
<p>That is how annoyed things like this make me.</p>
<p>So, it is going to be possible, in Chicago, where it is against the law to even own a gun, to encounter someone from another state excercising his “right” to carry?</p>
<p>Oh well, NVM. In Chcago we manage to shoot all sorts of people even though guns are against the law. Is SYG going to portable, too?</p>
<p>that sounds great. Anyone else want to join the Jesse James gang? I’m in.</p>
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<p>Illinois does not appear to have a duty to retreat. Also, an initial agreessor can use force to protect himself if he clearly articulates “King’s X.”</p>
<p>[720ILCS5/*Criminal</a> Code of 1961.](<a href=“720 ILCS 5/ Criminal Code of 2012.”>720 ILCS 5/ Criminal Code of 2012.)</p>
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<p>you mean rainbow NRA stickers?</p>
<p>^^^^ oops!</p>
<p>poetgrl–here is an article about the effort to bring concealed carry to Illinois. [Illinois</a>, Missouri ponder pro-gun legislation](<a href=“http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/illinois-missouri-ponder-pro-gun-legislation/article_0c2d5244-921e-56c8-818f-668b50bc67fd.html]Illinois”>http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/illinois-missouri-ponder-pro-gun-legislation/article_0c2d5244-921e-56c8-818f-668b50bc67fd.html)</p>
<p>07-- I know I can kill someone who attacks me in this state. However, the burden of proof is on me, if I do so, to prove that I was under attack. In Fla, the burden of proof still resides with the dead person. I think this is a major difference, which means, all shootings will be investigated.</p>
<p>OF course, you really can’t own a gun in most municipalities in the Metro area. I know this, becuase my H is a hunter and has to keep his hunting rifles at the club where he shoots at birds.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hate all of this cowboy stuff. I think it endangers far more people than it saves, though I do know how to shoot and I shoot well.</p>
<p>Parent - Sorry, I explained myself poorly. Firearm carry laws vary widely from state to state and metropolis to metropolis. Some states already have reciprocity agreements with carry permits. The problem I had was that none of the states I’d have to travel through would honor the CT carry permit. And of course I would not qualify for carry permits in those states because I wasn’t a resident of those states. And I couldn’t have a licensed gun dealer ship it to CT because I didn’t have an established line of ownership. As the pistol licensure staff at State Police HQ told me “We don’t think there’s a legal way to get it here, even with a CT Carry Permit.”</p>
<p>BTW, while it is certainly appropriate to interpret “Carry Permit” as the right to carry a firearm in public, it’s more narrow meaning is “Permit to take the firearm from your house.” CT law says you need a Carry Permit to transport a pistol from home to a shooting range or gunsmith … or even to another home (should you have another home).</p>
<p>poetgrl - A member of the Jesse James gang who’s openly non-violent? That’s pretty funny.</p>
<p>Yeah, well, if we don’t laugh, New Hope, you and I are going to go insane, is all I know for sure. :D</p>
<p>Back to the Carry Reciprocity Act for a moment. A second reading of the Web Site (which I mistakedly first read as <a href=“http://www.U-Scarey.com%5B/url%5D”>www.U-Scarey.com</a>) raises some interesting questions. Since the law would require states that issue Carry Permits to honor Carry Permits issued in other states, where does that leave the “no permit required to carry” states of Alaska, Arizona, Wyoming and Vermont? Are those residents stuck within the boundaries of their states? Or is the proposed law written along the lines of “if it is legal for a resident to carry in his state of residence then it shall be legal to carry in any state that issues carry permits.” Anybody know?</p>
<p>[?National</a> Right to Carry Reciprocity Act of 2012? introduced in U.S. Senate - USA Carry](<a href=“http://www.usacarry.com/national-right-carry-reciprocity-act-2012-introduced-us-senate/]?National”>“National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act of 2012” introduced in U.S. Senate - USA Carry)</p>