New etiquette rules for the younger generation?

Really? I think we all do so every day. More people probably have hearing issues in my area than non-conforming pronouns, but I expect you and others would just begin to speak at a normal tone in English, unless someone said something, right? Certainly here far more would be fluent in a language other than English and prefer that. You don’t ask about language or disabilities before you speak, even though those issues may be more common than pronoun issues? You may offer handshakes to those who, for religious, cultural, disability or medical issues, can’t or won’t accept them. The point is, we follow the norms of our community, unless someone points out that they do not do so, so please make an exception.
I do not run through the gamut of, “can we use English, can you hear, can you shake hands, what are your pronouns”, when I meet someone. Volunteer your name and whatever other info you feel relevant for me to know upon introduction. That is not “expecting a lot.”

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Can we get back on topic?

I agree. I don’t lead a charmed life and even if I did, I wouldn’t brag about it.

Which brings me to another generational etiquette difference. I’ve had younger guests over to my home who are absolutely puzzled by how many material possessions I have on display. I mean, things like wooden furniture. Books (okay, the vinyl record collection is probably a little ostentatious.) But it makes me wonder where they see themselves in fifty years?

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Wow. Knowing that an alarming number of young Americans have hearing loss and don’t speak native English isn’t a “charmed life”, merely an informed one.

Come again?

As it is off topic, suggest we drop it.

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Officially, please move on. Further back and forth and off topic comments will be deleted without comment.

Was criticized by a millennial family member for not sending a happy birthday text. I had already sent a birthday card with a hand written note and check enclosed. I could see online the check had already been deposited/cashed. Anyone else think it’s a breach of etiquette not to send a text?

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I don’t know about a text, but it sure is a breach of etiquette to criticize people about not sending one!

Let’s not start a thread on thank you’s (text or written) :slight_smile:

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Yes I mean, NO. I think the whole “it’s okay to be openly critical over trivial nonsense” thing is what I was alluding to upstream. It seems to be part of a new etiquette.

I am told guests have become more demanding in terms of expressing their expectations for certain food/drinks at others’ homes. It used to be that a polite host might inquire of their guests, but if that didn’t happen, a guest either partook of any offerings they could or brought their own food as necessary. At one recent event I attended a guest had demanded the hostess not use plastic cutlery for environmental reasons. Some seem to think guest equals customer.

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I recently went to a bridal shower, and upon arrival a bridesmaid asked me to fill out my name and address on an envelope for a thank you card. I guess I can be happy that I’ll be getting a thank you note (bc I’ve received nothing a couple of times), but it felt awkward to fill out an envelope. They had my address to send me an invite, so clearly they know where to send it. I would have thought that maybe the bridesmaids could have filled out the envelopes themselves if they really wanted to take the burden off the bride. Or maybe I’m just old :joy:

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Have you ever gotten the “too many lights on” scolding? It’s actually become a point of contention between guests who are waiting for cataract surgery and need a lot of light and millennials trying to save the environment.

Nope, I am pretty upfront about not welcoming such comments. Guests are expected to behave as guests or not welcome. We can always meet at a restaurant instead.

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Yes, restaurant celebrations have become a lot more common in my milieu. But that’s mainly because of in-laws, not millennials necessarily. Obviously, there are rude quests in every generation.

There used to be phone books and people stayed in the same location longer than they do now. So I can kind of understand that one.

I’m 56 and this was a thing back when I got married (unfortunately my bridesmaids didn’t do it, had to address my own, now I’m sure labels are printed).

Did they ask you to put your own stamp on it?

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That’s unusual, I think. For DDs wedding, we printed the invite addresses on clear labels. And we made several sets. Gave a set to DD to use for her thank you notes. Worked very well. She then had a second set to use for holiday cards or whatever.

It’s amazing what nice labels you can creat with nice fonts…and on clear labels, they really don’t show the label part much on the envelope.

This worked for our early 30 something very nicely.

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I’ve had that happen for years/decades - I don’t think it’s a “younger generation” thing - it’s just a “this is sure handy” thing - after all, they still have to write the inside note.

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