<p>Hi! I’m from Japan and I go to school here in U.S. as an international student, but soon, I will be a permanent resident. My English is second language, and I’m studying English for about 4years. (I’m not good at English) If I want go to University of Pennsylvania (Wharton), what I have to get for Critical and Writing section of the new SAT? (I’m class of 2006) Do I need to get 600s, 700s like other students who speak English as their first/major language? I’m good at math and I expect to get around 700-800.</p>
<p>Pleeeeease I need to have some ideas</p>
<p>i’m thinking 2000 plus is decent for lower ivies… i hope colleges look at the new section just as the equivalent as the old sat II writing</p>
<p>for Wharton, better be on top end. I would say 2300 +</p>
<p>even having English as a second language?</p>
<p>This doesn’t directly answer your question, but I would recommend taking the old SAT in January if you have the time to prepare over winter break and do well on practice tests. The new one stresses English much more (there is an added writing section, with an essay) than the old one, and furthermore no prep materials can accurately gauge the new one until after the first few administrations (at least), so you are effectively a lab rat at a disadvantage if you take the new one.</p>
<p>As for scores, I don’t know exactly, but I would imagine 2000 would be about the bare minimum for serious consideration (with no section below about 650, and preferably a very high math score, if this is your strength), and you would need a strong hook with anything below maybe 700-730 on every section (which means 2200+ is more realistic). I don’t know precisely how having English as a second language affects this, and adcoms may be more lenient if you show a strong ability to learn the language and improve quickly, but it seems this is unlikely to have much of an impact, since the primary consideration is how well you’ll be able to write in college, and even if you’re not a native speaker, you still need to be able to write at a comparable level to your prospective classmates, which in turn means a pretty strong score on verbal and writing.</p>
<p>YES strong math haha, how about a mid 2000-2150 score…? for ivies… sorta adds to the original question</p>
<p>i think if you are good at math the new test will be easier. more advancded topics, but it seems to be more straightforward.</p>
<p>im guessing hyp is around the 2200’s? thats ridiculous</p>
<p>wow… 2300 or 2200 is pretty high</p>
<p>Percentage wise, a 2200 score on the new test is the equivalent of a 1480 score on the old test, but I’m not sure if that’s an apt comparison.</p>
<p>The new SAT I is nothing new, since with the old SAT I, you had to take the SAT II Writing anyway. Now, it’s just compacted into one test, and the SAT II Writing is no longer required, I think.</p>
<p>yeah, basically a 1400 is a 2100…that should be like a benchmark for us new SAT ppl…but its really hard to tell what a GOOD score will be on this thing just because of the change in content, etc. We probably have to wait a couple years (2-3) to really see what the standard is for this test…</p>