<p>here it depends
We have a lot of Asians in teh community that have been here for generations. They aren’t generally as academically driven to be thinking about college in elementary school. That is a new one to me.</p>
<p>The people that are most interested in academic acceleration- that I have observed ( just ancedotally of course), are those who have moved to this area in teh last 5 years. Not necessarily Asians, but coming from other parts of this country as well.
( not that I am suggesting we barr our borders- * could we*?, but this is * Seattle* chill! )</p>
<p>"Asian families push their children more than those of white families. The Asian children tend to go to school year round and go to addtional classes after school during the school year. Many of the white children tend to spend several weeks vacationing at the beach… "</p>
<p>sorry, can’t agree with that. In this year’s summer math camp that my son went, about 1/2 of the kids are white and most of them took calculus in 8th grade, while my son will be taking it this year in 10th grade, which limits his ability of studying physics and he asked me several times why didn’t you ever think of push me to fast track? there are many of the white kids went to another math summer camp right after the first one finished, even my son called it crazy…(no nagtive meaning though)…</p>
<p>While our family never been participated in any of the CTY summer program, I heard from my friends that majority of the kids there are white too…just look at all these years Intel winner, math competition, all many high school academic competition, majority of the winners are still white, I don’t think all those white kids can be there without white parents pushing behind…</p>
<p>Just like many things in life, there are all kinds of different parents in any races…</p>
<p>“The people that are most interested in academic acceleration- that I have observed ( just ancedotally of course), are those who have moved to this area in teh last 5 years. Not necessarily Asians, but coming from other parts of this country as well.”</p>
<p>yes, that’s why most high-achiver in shcool are first or second generations, after that, kids start to talk about ‘fun’ more than grade, I guess that’s what weenie said ’ they are fully melted into the pot’…</p>
<p>btw, thanks, alumother for your understanding.</p>
<p>NYMomof2
Love the part about the great thoughts. I bet our boys could be good friends: my son’s grades PROVE he’s an underachiever - and he loses everything – from homework to the very SHOES he was wearing when he left in the morning, and no he didn’t remember when or even how he lost them. No underachieving here.
Request still stands.</p>
<p>amother, I was speaking about the white students in my neighborhood, and not the CTY class racial make-up. Most of the whites in my neighborhood do not tend to take academic classes over the summer months.</p>
<p>Take a gander at either of my kids’ orchestras…90% Asians/Indians and most of the rest are Jewish! Our math and science teams and Olympiads…90% Asians!</p>
<p>Head out to the football field…none…or maybe one.</p>
<p>Can’t argue with the facts. It’s all good by me though.</p>
<p>Allmusic, In our school orchesta is a bit more diverse, although the smaller ensembles of more talented students are nearly all Asian students. I see similar numbers of Asian students on our football team as well.</p>
<p>weenie, Marian…I agree that it is heartwarming to see the easy racial integration in our children’s generation. I believe it exists a generation above them too. The xenophobia that I see is from brand new immigrants who are 16 and older and older immigrants who arrived some time ago. Touch wood that the US has strong programs like Teaching Tolerance. That tolerance did not just appear on our social scene. It has been carefully crafted throguh trial and sometimes painful error.</p>
<p>My sense is that the Asian accent is the reason many Americans avoid Asians. Also, Eastern culture, quite different from Western culture, makes Americans uncomfortable. I might be the same had I not lived in Asia when I was in my mid-twenties, had we not lived cheek to jowl when we had a 64 year old Shanghai Chinese couple nannying our boys when they were small. </p>
<p>Interestingly, my ease with Asian culture has global trading power, apparently. We now have a number of Asian clients building wildly ambitious projects with us–a Korean Australian who speaks very halting English, a Malaysian Chinese from Sarawak, and a couple of Singaporeans. Once we were given a repeat job from one Singaporean client, the others assumed we were trustworthy and it was all on.</p>
<p>If only I liked karaoke!</p>
<p>amother, I enjoyed your honest post. I have young mainland Chinese friends who are now raising their young American children and I spend many hours trying to explain how leadership and sharp social skills are just as important as academics in America. This idea goes against everything they believe! Haha. It’s true though and the reason is because Americans do not value the degree BEYOND the academic years in the same way. In many countries, simply getting that degree ensures a position of leadership. That is not the case in the US. In the US, it is possible for someone with a degree from University of North Dakota to eclipse a couple of thousand Harvard MBA grads. <a href=“Warren Buffett - Wikipedia”>Warren Buffett - Wikipedia;
<p>Tookie that is interesting. In our high school that would be hard because most (not all) Asian students sit with other students of the same family ethnicity. My S attempted to sit with some Asian students several times. He says that they will let you know that you do not belong at their table by switching from speaking English to speaking the primary language spoken in their home. Lunchroom tables are apparently very segregated. It was this way throughout my son’s high school years and it never changed.</p>
<p>wow…i don’t know what to say…I mean I can totally see why people may feel a bit apprehensive or ‘threatened’ by this overwhelming sense of this ‘asian’ wave but to find people AVOIDING areas filled with Asians b/c it’s too “competitive” for their children is really sad…And moreover, while there are many Asian families who are indoctrinated with the Confucian beliefs of education I certainly do not believe that it is a negative aspect but rather a very admirable one that is now rare within many other cultures. Moreover, I think people really need to stop generalizing about other races because of what the majority may be perceived as b/c it really is unfair to those who don’t fit that mold…just a thought…</p>
<p>also I don’t know where many of you guys have experienced being with Asians, but Asians from the SoCal are different from NorCal, as well as from the West coast to the East coast. I mean from what you guys have said and what I have seen as well, much of the asian stereotype is pertained to the SoCal region particularly OC. Of course go to the suburbs of Richmond, VA, Scarlsdale, NY, Atlanta, GA, or even Chicago, IL and its much different. I’m not trying to say what you all have said is wrong or misconceived, its just too narrow in perspective and hurtful to alot of people, including me.</p>
<p>Crazedjunior, this is nothing new. In the past it was the Jews who were an academic threat – now it’s Asians. Every few decades some highly-driven ethnic group freaks out dumb locals.</p>
<p>I have seen the same thing Tookie has seen – very little drinking or drug use in Asian or predominantly Asian groups of kids. However, I guess that kids from other backgrounds can’t take advantage of this if they go to schools where the Asian kids self-segregate. Fortunately, not all schools are like that.</p>
<p>Another interesting thing about having Asian kids in a school is that Asians don’t buy into the myth that girls can’t do math and science. Asian girls often excel in these subjects, and they don’t consider it unusual at all. I hope that attitude rubs off on the other kids.</p>
<p>Marian, Actually, the high Asian population at my son’s school I believe has been a great asset in keeping the alcohol and drug issues within the school to a minimum. I am very grateful for that. There is a lot of segregation though, and I find this to be most unfortunate and my older son was very hurt by this situation. The younger one was warned by my older son about the situation, so he had different expectations during his junior high experience.</p>
<p>My daughter has heard that Asian self-segregation is often prevalent at colleges, and she says she will be really disappointed if it turns out to be that way at whatever college she ends up attending. At her first choice college, though, there are special interest dorms devoted to African-American culture and Latino culture, but not Asian culture. Perhaps this is a good sign.</p>
<p>I know this situation isn’t new. Its just freaking frustrating b/c many people think this way; and as a result, people will wrongfully judge people who don’t deserve such crap. Whatever, both sides have done wrong so neither side can claim to be the innocent ‘victim’. I am going to get over this and not try to promote this image and I hope none of you guys will do so but rather keep and open mind towards everyone. case closed.</p>
chill! )</p>