News article: Parent called police on young Native American men who joined campus tour group

“There’s a woman at the store who is acting oddly. She wouldn’t give her name when the clerk asked and she has had one hand inside her sweatshirt the entire time”

What on earth makes you think a store clerk is entitled to question customers? If a store clerk asked me my name when I was just looking around and not buying, I wouldn’t tell them. What’s odd and suspicious is store clerks and random mothers attempting to interrogate normal people. Refusing to be interrogated is normal. If I’m minding my own business and some nosey parker thinks they are entitled to grill me, I’ll ignore them or give them a frosty, “I beg your pardon?”

Two kids on a college tour. Is it against the law to have your hands in your pockets and be a quiet kid? The whole thing sickens me. Why didn’t the cop just stop the whole tour and ask everyone for confirmation emails or speak to the tour guide about her group. These kids were deemed not important and it was no big deal to offend them. Native American kids are a small percentage of the college population and these kids were on campus for maybe 20 minutes before someone called the cops, The whole thing sickens me.

I don’t think I would be searched under those circumstances.

I don’t think I would be searched under those circumstances.

Seems like a less extreme version of “swatting” – using the police to harass people you do not like out of some exaggerated fear or dislike.

The complainer is a 45 year old white woman from Colorado. The psychic witch said that she “knew” they weren’t on the tour. Apparently the moonbat interrogated them asking their intended major etc and “knew” that they were lying. She said they were wearing black clothing with strange symbols and they looked Hispanic. She said she “might be paranoid” and it “could be nothing” but to protect the feelings of middle age white women who call in, the cops decided to humiliate the boys.

According to https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/csu-police-called-on-two-native-americans-who-were-on-campus-for-tour , “Thomas is a freshman at Northern New Mexico College and had been hoping to transfer to CSU, his mother said, and Lloyd is a senior at Santa Fe Indian School.”

The mother of the boys has a strong Native American cadence to her speech. I bet the boys do too. The moonbat probably can’t hear the difference and just categorizes all brown people together.

Swatters intentionally call the police on people they know to be innocent. We have no reason to believe Moonbat intentionally called the police on people she knew to be innocent. But she would not have called the police on white boys who were quiet and wore black T-shirts. My son is quiet and sometimes wears black, yet no one has ever called the police on him, because he is white. Lots of us here have quiet white sons who sometimes wear black T-shirts, yet I am willing to bet that nobody has ever called the police on our white sons for being quiet and wearing black T-shirts.

I only have to come to CC to see things will not get better. For the most part this is an educated group, yet I see that some are making excuses for the woman calling the cops as if anything she did was defensible. It’s no different than the Starbucks incident, or the man that was moving into his apartment. SMDH

However, the effect is similar whether the caller knew that the other person was innocent, or had an honest but exaggerated suspicion or fear of the other person (such as racist people who fear that people of other races are dangerous criminals*). Every police encounter, where the police are primed to believe that someone may be committing or planning a crime based on the contents of the call, has a risk of error which could be potentially deadly, as well as annoyance and inconvenience to innocent persons who have the police called on them, and the police themselves.

*E.g. incident at Philadelphia Starbucks, incident at LA Fitness, incident involving man moving into his apartment.

Agreed, @ucbalumnus. And this is why I call Moonbat Mom a racist: the effect is the same. Innocent people are treated like criminals.

The officers apparently told them if they had told the woman their names and explained why they were late, nobody would have found them suspicious. I have two problems with that statement. First, those other people are not ENTITLED to know their names (how would they have felt if someone insisted on their son giving his name), or an explanation for why they were late, except perhaps the tour guide. And second, they told them where they were from, and their intended majors, and were accused of lying, so no amount of honesty was going to save them from this accusation. I guarantee these adults didn’t ask them these questions in a conversational manner, as if they were curious. And BTW, they didn’t look Hispanic to me - they looked Native American, but I guess some people can’t distinguish between the various brown people. My oldest daughter attended Colorado College, and I advised her to alway carry ID with her, because of this very issue. There is no legal requirement for a citizen to HAVE, let alone carry ID, but if you don’t, and someone accuses you of not being a citizen, and your skin is brown, assumptions might be made - people might assume you’re lying when you claim to be a citizen. Meanwhile whites are assumed to be citizens, even when they have thick accents.

Go ahead, keep telling us if we’ve done nothing wrong, we have nothing to worry about…

Even if Mrs. Nosey Parker asked those questions in a conversational manner, who appointed her Inquisitor? The boys have no obligation to talk to random strangers who distract them from the tour. They did nothing wrong, and they are not obligated to prove their bona fides to random strangers who get flustered when young men don’t have snowy white skin.

The police should have taken one look and then walked away.

Many forms of ID do not prove US citizenship. Also, there are both historical and recent examples of INS/ICE deporting or attempting to deport US citizens, sometimes despite being shown documentation of US citizenship.

https://timeline.com/in-the-1930s-we-illegally-deported-600-000-u-s-citizens-because-they-had-mexican-heritage-f0c5d589a5c3
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ice-citizen-arrest-20171129-story.html

If I was in the tour group and two oddly quiet boys of any color, hands in big pockets, joined the group I would probably not call the police. But I would be suspicious, and likely decide to head to the nearest Starbucks for an espresso. If it was two women of any age or color, I wouldn’t be concerned.

Nvm

Interview with the CSU tour guide, Gabriella Visani, who said she was “blindsided” by the 911 call and the subsequent police intervention. She didn’t notice anything unusual or odd about the 2 boys and had no idea what was happening when the campus police showed up. Visani apologized to both boys for what happened and she told the interviewer the whole incident made her very sad.

http://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/csu-tour-guide-apologizes-for-police-called-on-prospective-students/4894071/

“The mother of the boys has a strong Native American cadence to her speech. I bet the boys do too. The moonbat probably can’t hear the difference and just categorizes all brown people together.”

The busybody mom obviously and erroneously assumed it was because he was from Mexico. 8-|

"Lots of us here have quiet white sons who sometimes wear black T-shirts, yet I am willing to bet that nobody has ever called the police on our white sons for being quiet and wearing black T-shirts. "

Yet white boys definitely fit the profile of those carrying out mass shootings.

Maybe this dingbat mom had been indulging in some legal Colorado bud, thus the paranoia. 8-X What a moron.