Non Greek life at big Greek life universities

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S25 has been set on his list for a couple months. Most of his applications are in.
Basic stats:
CA resident (SF Bay Area), white, upper middle class, public school
3.98 u/w; 4.25/4 weighted. 11APs, 3DE
32 ACT
ECs mainly revovle around sports (coaching, working for CYO (6+ years) varsity 3 years football/basketball, founded a club. Nothing exceptional

After visits last spring and summer, and working with a counselor, he came up with his list that I think is a great mix of reach, target and safeties. He wanted an undergrad business program, big sports, Greek life. a typical big school college experience. FSU, University of Georgia, University of South Carolina, Indiana University, University of Florida, University of Michigan, University of Colorado, Arizona, Syracuse, Tennessee, Cal Poly SLO and San Diego State

He is athletic and social, and also quirky, kind of nerdy in a wonderful way :), dedicated to his studies, and not the life of the party although he loves to host and attend parties. He has a great group of friends with whom he loves to have intellectual discussions and debates.

Just this last week, he’s started saying, “maybe I don’t want to rush”. And, although I support whatever choice he wants to make (I was in the greek system at Syracuse) I’m worried his list is now completely wrong!

Am, I overthinking this? Will he find his place at these big schools that seem to be dominated by Greek life? Should we find some different schools so he can make a choice between Greek dominated and not Greek dominated when April rolls around?

Sorry for the long message and thank you if you’ve gotten this far! I’m stressing.

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I think he’s fine - you can check greek percentages at each but most will not be greek. My kid went to Bama and had no issues.

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He will not have trouble finding friends. My kid chose a school based on weather and sports and no interest in Greek life. Plenty of friends and a very diverse group.

Two older siblings also went to large sporty schools. Both did Greek. Both were also pretty much done with it after junior year. It takes up a lot of time and both wanted to focus on their academics, part time jobs and socialize with their actual close friends rather than have compulsory meetings and parties. It can also be very expensive especially in

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What I’ve heard from my kids and other parents, it’s difficult for non Greek/non athletes to get into parties (my daughters went to Rutgers, UDel and Clemson). That’s pretty much it, there’s still a lot going on, and once they turn 21 parties aren’t as popular. I know the business fraternity at Clemson isn’t an easy admit (my daughter chose not to get involved, she’s in a sorority and has a lot of activities).

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Happened to be talking to a young colleague yesterday who graduated from UofA maybe 5 years ago, he mentioned he’d rushed at first and after 6 months or something in a frat decided it wasn’t for him, and enjoyed the rest of his time there perfectly fine.

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He would be fine at FSU. Lots of clubs and activities.

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I think a lot of people think the Greeks run the show at the big schools, but that’s just because they are doing things as a group - making homecoming floats, wearing the same sweatshirts to the football games, posting about events and parties. But really the majority of students are not in Greek life at the big schools. 20% would be a big number in Greek life. At some schools there are enormous houses on campus, but at most schools there are not (sororities more than fraternity houses). Often the Greek houses are off in an area of campus away from the main drag or the dorms.

I don’t think he’d notice the Greeks if he decides not to rush and to find other activities.

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The good thing about big schools is that there are 100s of clubs to join. I’d worry more about being at a small, isolated school that was majority Greek.

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Thank you all for your perspectives!

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Yes

In all seriousness, the majority of students at these schools aren’t in a greek organization, and they still have a very active and fulfilling social life. There are literally thousands of people for him to meet and befriend. A better use of time may be having him look into all of the clubs, rec sports and other student organizations on campus; there are usually 100+ at larger schools. I honestly think social media like Insta and TikTok have skewed the perception of what social life is actually like at schools. We only see a fraction and tend to forget there’s a whole other life away from the spotlight. It’ll be ok :grin:

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S21 is a Senior at FSU not in Greek at not a problem at all
We are instate so he has friends from High School at FSU
However, He did the First Year Abroad at FSU and most of his friends are from Study Abroad including roommates the last 2 years
You will be fine non Greek at FSU.

D23 is at UF Greek but you will be fine there as well
We have many friends kids at both that are non Greek.
She has friends in and out of Greek,
She also studied abroad her first semester and her closest friends and roommate are from study abroad

Both Schools have 100s of clubs, intramurals, OOS living learning community Dorm etc.
There are many ways to meet friends beside Greek.
D23 just rushed her sophomore year so that’s always an option as well

When you are Greek you see the school thru a Greek Bubble.
Tailgate with Sorority, Sit at Games with your House, Eat at House, Greek Intramurals etc
While UF and FSU are about 20% Greek 80% of over 30000 kids are not.

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You may be overthinking this.

My daughter’s bf is at one of the schools on your list. He rushed and got a bid but ended up dropping shortly after because all the required events and meetings were eating into the time that he need to focus on academics. He has no regrets. All of his friends who rushed have since dropped as well (many for financial reasons).

My daughter also dropped her sorority this year. I just asked her if she had any regrets and she said no.

I agree with others that as long as your son keeps an open mind about other social opportunities, not being Greek won’t have an impact on his college experience.

If he’s athletic, there are many club and rec league sports opportunities also.

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