Non-trad with mediocre GPA to a master's and a federal job (by request)

<p>I wouldn’t ordinarily start this thread, but [in</a> another thread, FiFi5000 requested that I talk about how I got into graduate school](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/16739414-post3.html]in”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/16739414-post3.html) and I didn’t want to hijack that thread in another direction. So, yeah.</p>

<p>I was a nontrad undergrad. Went to a local community college in the Bay Area, took seven years to finish my two-year degree. Transferred to a small, isolated state flagship (Alaska)… spent a year there, transferred again to another small, isolated state flagship (Idaho). Graduated in 2010 with a degree in journalism, into a horrifically bad journalism job market.</p>

<p>The outdoors have always been a passion of mine, so to avoid moving home with the parents, I accepted a full-time internship with the recreation staff of the Forest Service Alaska Regional Office that winter. Part of that internship included the opportunity to work as a park ranger/interpreter, and I started thinking about the synergy between journalists and interpreters… surprisingly, there are many. My supervisor encouraged me to think about going back to graduate school to study interpretation (and, not coincidentally, become eligible for student hire again).</p>

<p>First and foremost, I developed a strong research concept and a refined list of programs. I wrote an SOP proposing to study how new media technologies such as Twitter and Facebook might be applied to resource interpretation, and I contacted professors at major programs in the field to ascertain a) their interest in that direction of research and b) their ability to accept new students. I only applied to programs where I got at least an initial impression of interest in that research. I wasn’t expecting any professor to commit to anything, but several were quite open in saying that they were interested in what I bought to the table - and others were quite open in saying they weren’t interested.</p>

<p>That helped me refine and tailor my applications, and I ended up applying to eight schools: Missouri, Indiana, SUNY-College of Environmental Science and Forestry, Ball State, Wisconsin-Stevens Point, Maine, Clemson and Idaho. These might not sound like “impressive” names, but between them, they represent most of the world’s strongest programs in my particular field. This is another object lesson: the “big-name” undergrad schools aren’t necessarily the best schools for your graduate work, and 40,000-student state flagships might just be the right school for your graduate work. You can’t rely on USNWR rankings, you have to drill down into departments and subfields. Graduate education is intensely personal and finding the right professor is key.</p>

<p>To offset my spotty academic record, I procured strong professional letters of recommendation from my Forest Service supervisors, and wrote a supplemental letter to the SOP, acknowledging responsibility for those grades and explaining how I believed they were not entirely representative of my ability to succeed in graduate work.</p>

<p>I was accepted to every school except for UWSP. I narrowed my list to four, and made visits to Missouri, Indiana, SUNY-ESF and Maine. Both Maine and Indiana offered me one year of funding, and having been smitten by the professor at IU (and, not incidentally, by life in B-Town), I accepted admission at Indiana University Bloomington. My supervisor in the Forest Service offered me a slot in the agency’s student-to-career program, contingent on completing my degree within two years.</p>

<p>This is not where the story ends. Because after the first semester at IU, I lost my assistantship and almost flunked out. I underestimated an intro class that I thought was lame, I thought I could waltz through it and paid for it with a big fat F on my graduate transcript. I can sit here and rationalize and make excuses, but ultimately I own the responsibility for that. Losing my assistantship screwed my advisor’s research plan and screwed myself out of a semester’s worth of tuition. It was a harsh way to learn a necessary lesson: you can’t skate through graduate classes. Professors see through that attitude, target that attitude and nail that attitude to the wall.</p>

<p>Attitude and work ethic thus readjusted, I earned nothing lower than a B+ the rest of my program and finished with a 3.4. My research went more or less according to plan and my advisor accepted the second draft of my thesis, which is now pending publication in a peer-reviewed journal. In late August, I joined the Tongass National Forest partnerships and public affairs staff in Ketchikan, Alaska.</p>

<p>Thank you so much for the honesty and information and congrats on your success. I was interested in your story because I definitely have a non-traditional background as well and I am applying to grad schools right now and am quite nervous about it. Since you seem to have solid advice and thoughtful input, I hope you don’t mind if I share my situation and get some feedback from you (or anyone else if they want)?</p>

<p>In a nutshell:</p>

<p>2002-2003: local university right out of high school - only went because of my parents, did poorly, spent one year there and left with a 2.4 GPA
2004: (as I was inquiring about in my other post) registered for two classes at a CC, had to withdrawal but after the semester started so there is a transcript but it has no grades, credits, or GPA - just two W’s. As I said in my other post, most of the schools I called said don’t even bother submitting this but I’m still undecided.
2009-2011: Went to another CC, got an associates in my major, 3.4 GPA
2012-2014: Transfer to my current liberal arts school in Pennsylvania. Decently ranked but not a brand name. I have a relevant minor and concentration, awards, I’m writing an honors thesis, tons of relevant internships including a director position, I work as a professors research assistant, I have 3 years of relevant languages (I’m in the humanities in case you hadn’t figured it out yet :slight_smile: deans list until this semester where I got a 4.0 and made presidents list, solid letters of rec, good sop, and my writing sample is one I won an award for and is directly related to the field which I am applying. I have a 3.85 cumulative (from this school) and 3.8 major GPA.</p>

<p>So as well as I am doing now doesn’t erase everything before 2012, as much as I wish it did. I have been in contact with several professors with one particularly promising phone conversation. I’m just very nervous about how my yucky background is going to be perceived and submitting multiple transcripts has made me cringe everytime I’ve done it. My other concern is the GRE. Except for the math, I scored in the 78th % which I know is decent but not great. I don’t have time or money to take it again. </p>

<p>I’m applying to 10-12 schools, some apps are already in, and most are masters programs while some are direct to PhD. A few are pretty highly ranked and all are a great fit for me. Sorry for the long post but if you could let me know your thoughts I’d really appreciate it.</p>

<p>Great post from polarscribe - this should be a sticky, about applying to grad school as a “non-traditional” student (I only put it in quotes because I think paths like this to grad school are more common than people think).</p>

<p>To FiFi - your low performance in 2002-2004 was literally 10+ years ago. MUCH more important are what you’ve done in the last 5 years - a great GPA, three languages relevant to your program, a strong writing sample, relevant internships and research experience. I think any admissions committee would be impressed by your current record and realize that what you’ve done in the last 5 years is far more important than mistakes you made 10-12 years ago, and you’ve shown that you can bounce back.</p>

<p>Also, the GRE is the least important part of your application. 78th percentile is still pretty good, so I wouldn’t worry about that too much.</p>