which school out of the 3 is the easiest to get into?
i know they are all highly selective, but i am just curious.
emory ranks highest.
northeastern is getting tougher to get in.
bc was always a selective school.
please give me your opinions! and which one will have the highest chance to apply for ED1
Northeastern is a very stats driven school and that’s why it appears tougher to gain admission. If you are going to use and ED1 application among the three, you should use it on the one school you like most.
BU was not always selective. As recently as 2002 they admitted 70% of applicants, In 2012 they admitted 45% of applicants. They only became very selective when they cut the freshman class from 4100 to 3300 students.
At all three of these schools admission cannot really be predicted for students with high stats. Also all three have an alternative entry route: Oxford at Emory, CGS at BU and NU In at Northeastern.
It makes no sense to apply to Northeastern ED, and this is a good thing! Unlike other schools, Northeastern does not fill up very much of its entering class with ED admits (about 300 only). Also, its acceptance rate via ED is 27%, which was actually lower than its overall 29% acceptance rate (for the most recent year on file over at CollegeData). This matches what I heard on a college admissions podcast in an interview with two people who had put together a list of schools and ED acceptance rates. They specifically mentioned Northeastern as a school that is not worth applying to ED.
So, yeah, for anyone who views this thread, do not use up the most powerful hand you can play on a school where ED gives no advantage. I’d hate to see anybody make a binding commitment to a school where she/he would have been accepted anyway (probably) during the RD round.
They are very different schools so I would not apply ED to a school unless I have thought about it very carefully and know that is the university that I would like to attend the most.
A few comments:
All are fine schools – is there one you want to attend above the rest?
I only recommend that a student apply ED if 1) he/she has an absolute top choice and 2) there is no need to compare financial offers among different colleges.
Keep in mind that some schools have ED2 as an option as well (ex. I believe Emory and Northeastern do). I think BC has non-binding EA. This gives you some flexibility.
@Hapworth EA and RD decisions this past year showed many 1500+/36 4.0 applicants outright denied. The 2018 overall acceptance rate was 19%. If Northeastern is your first choice ED is the only way to essentially guarantee acceptance with high stats…
BC doesn’t have ED, though you can do EA and be notified 12/25.
Northeastern did just add an ED2. They do have EA, but don’t notify you until 2/1. I know a year ago they’d notify 12/15, so I’m not sure if EA has that much point there now. I don’t think it gave much admission advantage before in any case.
Emory has ED 1 and 2. The current percentage of acceptance in the two EDs combined is not much higher than RD, but they take almost half the class in ED, so it might be a significant advantage to be in one of those rounds. Certainly if Emory is someone’s first choice of the three, ED there may be the right move.
Most of the discussion is around ED/EA here. Your financial situation would impact this decision.
If you have true financial need (per net price calculators/FAFSA/CSS) then you can back out of ED if accepted without predicted aid. But if you have no predicted aid, and get none, you are on the hook for full cost.
Now you may get merit aid at some schools without need, but what is the incentive for a school to do so if accepting you ED ? My son got into NU but with no merit aid (vs $10-$20k/year from other comparable schools with good tech and coops/internships). I am sure some get merit from NU, but you can’t predict. My son turned down NU mainly due to the lack of merit. Ended up at an academically more challenging school and paying less. NU seems to think their “aid” can be in the form of coop earnings, but they can’t guarantee how much you can earn.
A more academically challenging school for less money? I know the money can be quantified, but very interested in how one can learn how one school is more challenging than another.
And I wish I had read your post more carefully. You said BC not BU. My bad.
Stats for admitted students (2017):
Boston College:
25% - 75% SAT Scores - 1360 - 1480
25% - 75% ACT Scores - 32 - 34
Acceptance Rate - 32%
Emory:
25% - 75% SAT Scores - 1360 - 1490
25% - 75% ACT Scores - 31 - 34
Acceptance Rate - 25.3%
Northeastern:
25% - 75% SAT Scores - 1400 - 1500
25% - 75% ACT Scores - 32 - 34
Acceptance Rate - 27%
Worth noting that each of the schools has been trumpeting their most recent admissions cycle as well. Emory and Northeastern look to be under 20% acceptance rate for the most recent year (NU is 19% and Emory is 18%). BC said in March (pre-WL movement) that their mean SAT for admitted students (not those attending) was now 1448, acceptance rate at 27%.
The post above includes scores for ENROLLED students and not ADMITTED students. There is a big difference. The average SAT score for admitted Emory students for the Class of 2022 is over 1500. The average for ENROLLED will be much more than the 1360-1490 and the the 25/75 numbers will go up as well. Still, Emory has a strong bias to ED1 applications. While “demonstrated interest” is not a factor (they don’t want your letters or care about your visits), they are interested in motivation to attend and an ED1 application is about as much motivation as you can get. 35% of the Class of 2022 will come from ED. I don’t believe the ED2 bump is as significant.
The original poster wants to be a nurse and should take into consideration that both Emory and BC have more of a focus on the liberal arts in addition to nursing whereas Northeastern is more pre-professional in nature. That’s a preference and all schools have great access to hospitals (Emory’s are on campus) and research. Emory and BC also are on the city outskirts while Northeastern is in the city. The student bodies of the schools are also much different in makeup and OP can research that easil.
Sorry I should have provided citation. These are admitted (not enrolled) stats for the school, including Emory - for the class of 2021.
You Can see at this link that average SAT for 2021 was under 1500:
This is the link I used for 25% - 75%, the section is clearly marked as Admitted students stats, not enrolled. I also know someone in the admissions office and confirmed.
https://apply.emory.edu/discover/fastfacts.php
All of these schools are seeing large increases in SAT score due to the new SAT, the year before the average admitted SAT for Emory was 1434.
I agree with your point that these schools are different and have strengths and weaknesses and that should be paid close attention to. Your breakdown of ED information is really helpful.
I don’t disagree that the average SAT for the Class of 2021 at Emory was below 1500.
I was referring to the average SAT for admitted students for 2022 was 1500.
http://news.emory.edu/stories/2018/03/er_admission_2018/campus.html
Emory and BC are similar with respect to percentage of class admitted through ED and the ED bump. I would hate to see someone choose which of Emory and BC to use an ED1 on just based on chances. Both are close there, but the schools are just so much different in so many ways. I would think the Northeaster ED bump is negligible, but deciding on Emory or BC should be based on fit and preferences.
Northeastern invites many students to join the nu.in program that takes slightly less qualified students and sends them overseas for q1 first year. Not in stats. Spring admits. Not in stats. And other ideas to help their usnwr rankings. But they have become a super great school.
Emory does this a bit with their oxford campus program as well. But really a top of the charts school.
BC 2022 avg admit was 33 act 1458 sat and all time low number of 27 % Accept rate. High classroom achievement. And bc has a lot of d 1. Acc level d1 athletes in their averages. Not that all are lower scholastically than the avg but many can’t focus as much on school with the sports ec
I think there lots of kids who get into one and perhaps rejected or wl at the other two.
In the past it was Emory then bc and then Nu
Now I think Emory bc is a coin flip and nu just outside of that circle. IMHO. But who knows?
I was accepted to Northeastern honors and BC and will be a sophomore at BC this fall. Its difficult to rank them on which is easier to get into, but generally I would say Emory is the hardest to get into. Then, between BC and NEU, I believe high GPA and test scores is taken into account and valued more at NEU, while BC is more holistic in its admissions.
Also, BC does not have ED, only restrictive early action. Several posters are talking about BC ED for some reason(perhaps confused with BU?). Not only does REA not give you an advantage, it is actually more selective at BC as it tends to be a stronger pool of applicants hoping to secure a solid school early on before going all out with ivy tier school applications.
@HSStudent938 thank you for your correction. I should have written that the BC Restricted Early Action provides a similar bump to Emory’s ED1. However, the point remains that BC does not allow you to apply Early Action if you are applying ED to another school. In that respect, the original poster knows she cannot apply Early to both BC and Emory (or Northeastern). She has only apply early to one of them. If an ED1 at Emory provides the best chance, it still might make more sense to use an “early admission” at the school you really want to attend. Emory and BC are alike in some ways, but really more different than alike.
Emory also has ED2, which is allowable under BC’s EA rules.
My understanding is that in the past, BC’s acceptance rate for EA was very similar to the RD rate, albeit with a different type of pool. However, for class of 2022, the RD rate was notably lower than EA (maybe they were surprised with the RD app numbers?). EA was 31%, but if a third of EA applicants were deferred to RD as in the past, RD was probably around 22%. I don’t think BC published what portion was deferred this year.