Of course these numbers really don’t mean much when not put into the context of who is being accepted from your actual high school. For instance, our HS (competitive HS in suburban MA) typically has between 75-100 applicants per year. Even in 2017 when the admit rates clearly dropped substantially, 40% of the applicants received acceptances. So important to use Naviance (if your school utilizes it) to get the bigger picture.
@collegemom9 agree about Naviance BUT with a caveat. With a school like Northeastern where admission rates have changed substantially, I think you need to shorten the number of years you evaluate. A scattergram may go back 8 years and what was happening 8 years ago is somewhat less relevant to admissions today. As a counselor, I can pull a shorter horizon scattergram for my students.
One last thing I think I can share from the counselor update (none of it is embargoed except release time):
I am not going to put myself into the mind of Northeastern Admissions, but I think this means that more students who previously may have been deferred (and then admitted to N.U.in) were admitted early to N.U.in – so that they have more time to “live” with the decision. N.U.in is different than what many students have had in mind, so this longer adjustment period may allow some students (and their families) to see the benefits. There are no hard numbers accompanying this, but if more students in the pool are getting a N.U.in admission, and the overall EA acceptance rate has decreased, then probably the EA for fall admits is lower than the 17% (but no sense of how much lower).
Our Naviance shows the last 3 years so that’s where my figures are from, not the scattergram. Ours shows the last 3 years, how many applied, how many were accepted and how many are attending.
Do I need to send in a midyear report if I was deferred? I didn’t think I saw anything on the portal about it…
@collegeughhh Yes you must send it in. It should have been mentioned in your deferral letter.
@collegemom9 Ditto. For my school, 20-30 people apply each year (considering I’m international and our class sizes are only around 140, this is a large number), and our acceptance rates fluctuate between 55-65% according to Naviance. The scattergrams are such a useful tool in knowing your chances, especially since they contain GPA and SAT scores too.
It’s interesting, at least anecdotally, how many posters report acceptance rates in their schools around 50% or more. This is true for S19’s high school as well. However, at his school, very few actually matriculate. While historically about 50% of 15-20 applicants are accepted each year, only about 1 or 2 actually go.
@BrooklynRye @Taylie1768 If a student is offered NUIn that is not considered a fall acceptance although it may be entered in Naviance as an acceptance.
Agree with @TomSrOfBoston
I know by fact that at our school NUin accepted students put “accepted” in Naviance. So the percentage showing in naviance (for our school) is much higher than the fall admit rate. I never saw any numbers on how many students are offered NUin and what kind of yield that program has.
@BrooklynRye Those enrollment rates (AKA yield) are roughly in line with Northeastern’s norms. Northeastern’s yields are generally in the 20% range plus or minus a few points. This means that they issue 4.5 - 5.5 admissions offers per available seat. That may seem like a lot but it is within the normal range for its competitive cohort.
I was deferred EA, should I send a letter of continued interest? I completely forgot about that until now so is it too late to send one?
I don’t think it’s too late to send LOCI. Result only came out a little over a week ago.
@PengsPhils @BrooklynRye @piesquared thanks for that info… it makes sense that ED admits in 2018 were so high bc they were way overenrolled Fall 2017 (by some 300+ students) which has caused lasting ripple effects on housing crunch, etc. I’m sure they were trying to control their yield much more in 2018 and now its balancing out. That may have been the year they added ED2 as well, but @TomSrOfBoston might remember better.
@twicemama 2018 entry was the first time with ED II.
@BrooklynRye I’m interested to see how the yield rate changes in the next few years, though. I think Northeastern is one of those up and coming schools that you have to keep a lookout for. As its ‘prestige’ increases, so will its yield rate. Even over the past 3 years, more and more students at my school are enrolling at Northeastern, even if the number of students accepted remain similar. 14% of accepted students at my school matriculated in 2016 while in 2018 33% did.
@Taylie1768 - I imagine that this will be the trend. My impression on visiting the school a couple of times is that they are very much emphasizing, and investing in, discipline areas that are at the cutting edge, including Engineering and Health Care Sciences. These, combined with the increasingly perceived-value of the COOP, will move NEU into the top 20 shortly.
As great as I think Northeastern is and place little value on rankings, at #44 that would be a huge jump. Anything is possible but not sure that will happen in the near future.
@BrooklynRye @collegemom9 Given the change last year in the USNews methodology I doubt if a significant rise in the rankings is possible. The change added the ‘affordability for low income students’ factor into the rankings. Northeastern dropped 2 places, BU dropped 5 places, BC dropped 6 places in the rankings. The methodology change favored the top public universities and of course the super endowed private schools. With limited endowments Northeastern, BU and BC will struggle to rise even to 30.
Interesting @TomSrOfBoston. I wonder, however, the degree to which their is a chain reaction. If NEU starts pushing the envelope, generating a lot of spin, perhaps there will be an increase in funding and a subsequent increase in aid? May be a drop in the bucket, but NEU is touting an awful lot of unique synergies, e.g., NASA.
I think realistically the max for the next 10 years that Northeastern could move up to is #30. They’ve been bouncing around 40ish now for a few years with a lot of ties in the rankings range, as have many other similar schools, so it’s close enough to move up 10 spots with relatively little change if the stars align. Endowment is going to be the big factor that holds the rankings to be the same over time though.
Yield could increase but I’d also be wary, as with schools acceptance rates dropping lower and lower and applications always on the rise, I think “shotgunning” is becoming more and more common, meaning more apps per student and often lower yield for everyone not Harvard or Stanford etc. Maybe shotgunning will decrease in time, but last year I think the approach really helped catalyze huge drops in acceptance rates over many schools.