<p>which should i pick out of these two:</p>
<p>Northwestern’s Honors Medical Program
or
Brown’s 8 year Assured Med</p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>Since they are both very well respected programs, i would go to the one that is cheapest for you.</p>
<p>Agreed. (Congrats on getting accepted to them, btw).</p>
<p>they’re both remarkable programs, in undergrad and med school and the two combined…</p>
<p>did you have a chance to visit chicago/evanston and providence? the environment seems like it would be really important if you’re planning on spending eight years there</p>
<p>NU is a 7 year program, so that saves time.</p>
<p>They’re both extremely competitive and rigorous, I’m sure.</p>
<p>i am just wondering about the adv/disadv of a fasttrack program…
for instance, in reg 8 years (assured) i am under the impression that I can still apply to other med schools if i want</p>
<p>do i have that flexibility in a fasttrack?</p>
<p>Brown’s program is super flexible, but Brown’s med school, though probably equivalent to NU’s, is not as well regarded by physicians. It’s a recently established school, for one.</p>
<p>I think Northwestern’s Medical School is in the 20-25 range. Brown is not quite as good. I don’t remember exactly, but I would guess it is in the 30’s.</p>
<p>Nice choice to have to make. </p>
<p>I would go with Brown. </p>
<p>You’ll have an amazing undergraduate experience at Brown (open curriculum, motivated and happy faculty etc.), plus the option to apply elsewhere if you tire of Providence after 4 years. </p>
<p>Both medical schools are good, with a very slight advantage towards Northwestern.</p>
<p>If your goal is to practice medicine in your community, the difference between the medical schools is insignificant. </p>
<p>You’ll get a solid medical education at both, and most of your patients won’t care if your MD is from Brown or Northwestern. </p>
<p>If you’re smart enough to be admitted to these highly competitive programs, you should be able to get into one of the top-tier medical schools in 4 years (ie Hopkins, Harvard etc.).</p>
<p>If you think that is something you’d be interested in, it would be another advantage of the Brown program.</p>
<p>The top-tier medical schools may offer you an advantage if you’re interested in an academic career, as well as a greater chance of acceptance to a prestigious residency program, but even that is debatable.</p>
<p>I’m a Brown graduate (undergrad, MD elsewhere), so I’m definitely biased.</p>
<p>Not sure you need it, but good luck.</p>
<p>I am not 100% but if I remember correctly, NU’s program allows you to apply to other med schools but when you do that, you’ll no longer have the fastrack deal. Your undergrad becomes the regular 4-yr program instead of 3.</p>
<p>NU’s med school is in a prime location of Chicago. ;)</p>
<p>Maybe you should ask this question AFTER you get accepted to noth of the most selective undergrad programs in teh nation</p>
<p>oh also keep in mind that you can’t apply to HPME (the NU program) early</p>
<p>If I might offer some clarifications - I’m an HPME Northwestern grad who also knows the Brown program quite well. </p>
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<li><p>Northwestern’s program is tracked to 7 years with a very flexible 8th year option to pursue anything from an additional major to research to travel to public service. The obvious advantage to 7 years is the substantial cost savings involved. If this is not an issue for you, I, for one, would always recommend taking it slow and enjoying an 8th year to do whatever moves you. It’s quite a luxury to a have a year to indulge your passions free of any academic constraints.</p></li>
<li><p>You CAN apply to other medical schools if you so choose. However, given the extraordinary quality of Northwestern’s medical school this is a rarely pursued path.</p></li>
<li><p>Brown and Northwestern will both offer similarly superb undergraduate academic experiences but they are distinctly different in tone. You need to visit and see what fits best.</p></li>
<li><p>Providence is a pretty small town compared to Chicago and 7-8 years is a long time to spend in one place. The opportunities offered by Northwestern’s Evanston and Chicago locations are a hard combination to trump. </p></li>
<li><p>The medical school and clinical facilities at Northwestern are world-class. Virtually the entire campus has been rebuilt and is cutting edge. Ground was recently broken on the new children’s hospital which consistently ranks among the best in the nation. I would rank the medical center as one of the top 10 clinical treatment facilities in the nation. I believe Brown will offer an equally good basic science education and equally good opportunities to pursue a primary care career. But the clinical and research opportunities to continue on in academic medicine will be noticeably stronger at Northwestern.</p></li>
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<p>actually bala…im pretty shore hpme is now binding meaning you cannot apply out</p>
<p>Graduates of Brown’s medical school also do well if they’re interested in an academic career.</p>
<p>Of the 69 members of Class of 2008, matches to top 10 programs as below:</p>
<p>Harvard: 7
Hopkins: 2
Penn: 3
UCLA: 5
Duke: 2
Stanford: 1
Yale: 2</p>
<p>For what it’s worth, USNW ranks Brown #31 re research, and NW #20. If you’re interested in primary care, they rank Brown #23 and NW #51.</p>
<p>It may come down to a decision as to which campus and city you like best.</p>
<p>if it helps i dont have the stats but many more plme students apply out because they get sick of being at brown for 8 yrs…but with hpme your on a diff campus for the last four in an amazing city</p>
<p>dabulls where did you hear this information? I’ve been told that the retention rate of PLME kids from undergrad to med school is practically near 100%, excluding those who decide that medicine is no longer their passion. And keep in mind that the institution doesn’t pressure them to stay at all (ok so this isn’t from firsthand experience, but I’ve been told and I certainly got that impression when I was applying). The NU admissions person almost got combative when I asked whether HPME was binding…</p>
<p>“actually bala…im pretty shore hpme is now binding meaning you cannot apply out”
HPME is NOT binding, You can apply out.</p>
<p>I know a few people in the program and we were talking about it…and I think I might have just misheard them Ill have to double check</p>