<p>Northwestern Economic major and Emory Goizueta business school,
which one is easy to find financial job in New York?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Goizueta…when i was interviewing for jobs a majority of the students seemed to have business degrees. I would recommend it over Economics, and i would certainly recommend Goizueta!</p>
<p>I’d choose based on fit. The two majors look for more or less the same type of jobs (unless you want to be an accounting major and Northwestern doesn’t provide any accounting courses at the undergrad level). I took 3 econ classes at NU and had very good experience with all of them and the econ dept is supposed to be one of the best not only in the US but also in the world. There are also business institution minor, marketing certificate, finance/business related courses in the management science dept, and Kellogg certificate available (Kellogg cert is very competitive to get in however). Think about where you want to spend your college years also: Atlanta vs Chicago. Good luck!</p>
<p>Northwestern def has lots more name recognition and networking in the business world than Emory. If you’re looking to work in places like NYC or Chicago, NU def has huge advantage over Emory. Its Kellogg School is superb and top-ranked, and just recently NU has started to introduce a business certificate program in conjunction with its grad Kellogg School, which is pretty cool.</p>
<p>Honestly, I think Emory’s business school is a bit overrated, and you’re going to have a more difficult time looking for a job outside the Southeast. If you want to stay in Atlanta, then Emory obviously is the better choice over NU. </p>
<p>If I were you, I’d go with NU. Even though NU doesn’t have an undergrad b-school, its econ department is phenomenal–only very slightly under UChicago’s econ dept, which is the best in the nation.</p>
<p>Also, don’t think for a second that you <em>need</em> to go to a school that has an undergrad b-school in order to succeed and go to a great business school–excellent schools like Princeton and Cornell, or LACs like Amherst and WIlliams, have INCREDIBLE placement rates despite the fact that none of them have an undergrad business school. One of America’s top venture capitalists went to Rice for undergrad and Stanford for grad business school, and Rice definitely does not have an undergrad business school. </p>
<p>Just something to think about.</p>
<p>damn hotasice. ur on every thread comparing emory with other schools. u need a life and quit advertising rice on the emory board. dont u ever have anything nice to say about emory?</p>
<p>David,</p>
<p>As usual, the advice of Sam Lee is very sound and appropriate look for a school that fits your academic needs and personal preferences.</p>
<p>I recognize that as a H.S. junior, your understanding of financial job is limited, but then again, thats why you want to attend college to broaden your knowledge base and extend your horizons. As someone who has been in corporate recruiting for over 20 years, I can assure you that financial job can have many meanings, from accounting positions to FP&A (financial planning & analysis) to SEC reporting to due diligence analysis to commercial banking or investment banking. Each of these functions requires specific skills/techniques, along with the necessary soft skills such as strong communications and interpersonal abilities. </p>
<p>I would urge you to not get too far ahead of the game. Know yourself first. Know what you want in a college experience. While you can (and should) have a plan for your future, you should know that many students change their minds mid-stream. This can occur from a newly-developed interest or a profound experience that truly stirs a passion previously hidden from your consciousness. </p>
<p>The choice (if you should be fortunate enough to have one) between Northwestern and Emory would be desirable, but understand that each of these two schools are highly-desired for good reason. Each is an elite national university with great resources, and each is highly selective (average unweighted GPA of admitted students for Emory this year was 3.84; average SAT Math/CR score was 1400+). Many excellent students were denied admission to NU and Emory this year, and it wasnt for lack of being deserving. </p>
<p>If you do eventually have the choice presented to you, think ahead 4 years to what you will want to do with your life. I believe that the study of Economics is a good basis for the real world, and no doubt about it Northwestern is a great school for Econ. On the other hand, Emory/Goizueta B-School deserves its accolades for the facilities and programs that have been brought together. If you excel, regardless of where you attend school, the jobs you desire will find you. If you do not reach standards of excellence, it will not matter what school you will have attended. Either of these two schools will do the job if you also do your job.</p>
<p>A couple of comments although Sam Lee indicates that the undergraduate Certificate Program for Undergraduates from Kellogg is competitive, it is yet to be weighted very highly. Its a nice to have at this point, but its too early to suggest that it will be a difference-maker to most prospective employers, depending on the jobs they need to have filled. An Econ degree from Northwestern alone can be as valuable to many employers, assuming youve demonstrated a conscientious effort during your u/g years. The essence of the certificate program can be gained as easily by applying yourself to the necessary critical thinking and quantitative techniques you can develop in other NU courses. On the other hand, you need to know what kind of career you want to develop if, for instance, you are seeking an accounting career, this certificate is not as valuable for that purpose. If you want a career in financial analysis, it might be. This is a choice that you will make AFTER youve applied to NU, been ADMITTED, and then shown yourself to be an excellent student during your first 2 years, AND still want to pursue a career applying quantitative techniques to the complex problems the world has to offer.</p>
<p>As for the comments of hotasice, I would ignore them. He speaks with a dubious understanding, and its reprehensible for him to make statements about Goizueta that lack substance and corroboration. Regarding his comments about NUs Kellogg School, understand that this is a school whose acclaim is based on their graduate programs something that you may aspire to perhaps 10 years from now (average age of Kellogg MBA student is 28 years old), and if your career aim is say in Marketing, where Kellogg excels. The tie-in of Kellogg to NUs u/g Econ major is minimal.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the school you attend is unimportant if you do not perform well and realize your potential to think critically, apply layered analysis, communicate well and persevere against all obstacles. The major advantage, in my mind, with an Economics focus is that it will offer you the opportunity to do this so long as you are diligent. The advantage of a BBA is that it is liked by many employers as evidence for solid knowledge of specific business-related techniques/practices. Public accounting firms (e.g., KPMG, Deloitte, Ernst & Young and PwC) like BBAs that are trained in Accounting and they certainly have a high demand in the aftermath of the Enron scandal and recently-enacted legislation such as Sarbanes-Oxley. If getting a good job in Accounting is your aim, you can do so by attending a solid school such as Santa Clara University, getting an internship between your junior/senior years and getting a job offer well before you get your BBA. Before you embark on this path, though, ask yourself what you want in a college experience, in a potential career, or even in lifestyle (many students from California have suffered depression in colder climates flip-flops may be common in CA year-round, but that isnt the case in most of the country).</p>
<p>Ill end my post with the story of somebody I spoke with this week. She thought she knew what she wanted in life. She was (and still is) a smart young woman, savvy, living a good life in NYC. 10 years ago, after graduation from Wharton with a degree in Economics, she was interviewed and offered a position by JP Morgan Chase in their Investment Banking group. She accepted and spent 3.5 years experiencing the life (if you can call it that) of an Investment Banker, until she realized she wasnt happy (in fact, she had no life for all the demands of investment banking). When she went back to school at age 26, she was fortunate to be accepted into Harvards MBA program (at an opportunity cost that she estimated to be about $300K no salary/bonus at $125K per year, plus the cost of attending a 2-year full-time program). She experienced the compelling event she had been seeking an internship with Kraft Foods, that gave her a taste of brand management and consumer-based marketing. Upon graduating from Harvard, she took a position with American Express in NYC, initially managing credit card brands. Today, she has had 4 years of marketing experience and enjoys her role as a global marketing manger for AMEX. She will tell you that her earlier career in IB was not a waste of time (and it ultimately caused her to think hard about what she really wanted in her life), but the true value of her experience is that she now knows how important it is to be true to yourself, even if it requires a serious attitude adjustment and ensuing career change. </p>
<p>(BTW, as an aside, Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase also has a Harvard MBA, but he studied Biology and Economics as an undergrad at Tufts.)</p>
<p>Um, prepdude2, that is so not true. If I have some relevant knowledge to share, why should I not inform others about it?</p>
<p>There’s an Emory vs. UGA and Emory vs. UVA, William & Mary, etc threads also, but have I posted there? Nope. Why not, you ask? According to your perverse logic, I’d be saying bad things about Emory, right? Absolutely wrong. I don’t even look at those threads because I DON’T KNOW MUCH about those schools! But I do know some about Northwestern.</p>
<p>I’m not “advertising” Rice on the Emory board. YOU need to get a life and stop stalking my posts! Did I ever say Emory is a bad school? No. It is a fantastic school.</p>
<p>I just don’t know that much about it, but I DO know about Northwestern. Hell, I visited the school and heard about the business certificate program straight from NU itself.</p>
<p>IF I visited Emory and sat in on their Goizueta presentations, I would of course share that in this thread to offer a good contrast to NU. But I haven’t visited, and I certainly do not claim to be an expert on Emory and its offerings.</p>
<p>I only gave an example of Rice because I knew about it, I am absolutely positive there are similar stories about Williams and Amherst grads and other schools’ grads going to top business schools without having to go to an undergrad business school. So now are you going to say I’m “advertisting” Williams and Amherst over Emory? You really need to get a life.</p>
<p>I myself held a misconception that, hypothetically, if I wanted to go to a good business school, I <em>had</em> to go to a good undergrad b-school, like UT-Austin McCombs or Georgetown McDonough. That is not the case, and I don’t know if the OP knew you aren’t absolutely mandated to go to an undergrad b-school if you are looking to top graduate schools.</p>
<p>Why don’t you post something constructive and say good things about Emory’s Goizueta School and stop nitpicking my post?</p>
<p>When I said Emory’s school is a bit overrated, I was referring to BusinessWeek’s ratings that it was #4, which BW placed Emory above NYU Stern and Michigan Ross, which don’t make very much sense to me. No doubt Emory’s business school is up there, but when I said “overrated” I was specifically referring to BusinessWeek’s rankings, which Emory often touts.</p>
<p>The OP wants to work in NYC, and of course an Emory degree won’t hurt him, but I believe Northwestern has better connections/networking in the Northeast than Emory does. These are just my two cents.</p>
<p>NorCalDad,</p>
<p>I enjoyed reading your post and agree with pretty much everything you said. Just one more thing about the Kellogg cert: my point of saying it’s competitive to get in was to discourage the OP from having it as a major factor since it’s such a long shot to get in. Like you said, it’s unclear how the program is regarded since it’s so new though it is supposed to have support from the Kellogg school in terms of getting summer internships. The 4-course program is very intense and probably everyone that’s in the program has gone through either honors calculus or equivalent series. The first course is the same accelerated (combining two course into one) finance course offered to MBA students and taught by the same professor. It’s definitely not for everyone.</p>
<p>haha, this is entertaining. never expected such a bitter reaction to my comments.</p>
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<p>Says the bitter one who curses at me. It’s okay, that was a pretty lame attempt to save face.</p>
<p>(And the bitter one who, of course, offers nothing quite useful to say about Emory and just likes to be petty and falsely accuse others of putting Emory down for the stupidest reasons).</p>
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<p>Go on google and search wallstreetoasis . That is a forum with people actually in the industry, so that will probably provide you with better advice than what you’re getting here. I’m pretty sure most will tell you that NU has a much better reputation on the street, although Emory certainly isn’t a bad school. No offense to Emory, but it really is a notch below NU in terms of BB placement. Recruiting is better at NU. The overall prestige of the school is better, and northwestern economics is better than emory economics, not to mention a significantly better grad business school (Kellogg).</p>
<p>both are very good- it overall doesnt matter what school you go to- just which u like better to live at</p>
<p>I’m coming in pretty late on this thread but I did want to clear something up. Northwestern does teach undergraduate accounting.</p>
<p>^I think that’s incorrect.</p>
<p>i think,not trying to offend anyone, it’s meaningless to compare the universities when the rankings are comparable to one another (hope i’m not being paradoxical here). both are prestigious universities, even though NU has more recognition worldwide, but that doesn’t mean employers will dismiss emory. it all comes down to where you want to spend your four years in undergraduate years. in another thread, i read that more graduates of goizueta lives in the northestern US than southern US, so as long as you have the desire to learn and make use of what the university offers, u can’t go wrong in either of the two.</p>
<p>northwestern offers 1 accounting course in the econ dept.</p>
<p>furthermore, they offer some accounting courses in their school of continuing studies</p>