Does anyone know how responsive the AO’s are to inquiries regarding next steps for those who were deferred? Thanks in advance.
@Eyeful_Tower Next steps, as suggested by the Office of Undergraduate Admissions: https://admissions.nd.edu/connect/news/i-received-a-deferred-decisionwhat-now/
Do you have a better chance at getting in RD after deferral if those from your state that did get in, decide to attend another university?
@hpcsa thank you for the link, however let me rephrase the question: will the AO’s be responsive to questions regarding the strengths/weaknesses of a deferred student’s application? Because there are obviously some things you can change, but most you can’t.
@Eyeful_Tower The student needs to be considerate on his/her communication process throughout the deferral/regular decision process. For 99% of students, the Office of Admissions already has all the information it needs, except a strong reconfirmation of continued interest, hence a LOCI to the AO is highly recommended, as well as mid-term grades (required) and any other truly notable events/achievements that were not available to the AO at REA decision time. That’s it! Finally, at no time do parents play any role in any of this.
My daughter, a current sophomore, was initially deferred (34C, 4.0 UW, great EC) then accepted RD. After the initial disappointment, my daughter spent a good part of Christmas break reflecting on her application and drafting the perfect follow up letter / email. She reviewed it with her high school guidance counselor before she sent it. She also sent a few follow up emails with recent accomplishments such as scholar athlete or confirmation retreat leader that were not on initial application. Although she received two awards the same week, she sent one update to AO, then 3 weeks later another. Her high school guidance counselor said that her follow up letter as so strong, that the AO had probably not received one like hers before. Look over the AO’s profile page and find something to connect with if possible. Best of luck to those deferred.
Anyone know the stats for REA
“will the AO’s be responsive to questions regarding the strengths/weaknesses of a deferred student’s application?”
No, I don’t think they will give you this type of information.
@georgesmom The application of the deferred student will be reviewed in the context of the whole RD applicant pool. REA yield rates mentioned will not be part of the admission decision at that time. Best of luck and success to your student!
A huge congratulations to all those accepted/invited to the Gateway program! For those denied…have faith that there is something better for you out there, even if Notre Dame was your top choice.
Notre Dame will release the stats for the accepted class of 2023 in a few days.
To all who have been offered the Gateway Program—explore this option fully and give it a genuine look. One son, now an ND junior, did Gateway and loved it, feels he had an even better experience than his two older ND brothers. While thinking about whether to do it, one brother gave this advice: at the end of four years, your degree says “University of Notre Dame.” We heartily recommend this program if ND is your dream. Youngest Daughter accepted REA last night. We are grateful and blessed. Good luck to all!
@NDMomof5 100% the degree says University of Notre Dame? D was offered a spot. We’re so happy for her.
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Congratulations to your D, @HM0527! That is great news! Here is a thread with good information on the program: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-notre-dame/2059882-university-of-notre-dame-gateway-class-of-2022-p1.html
@suzy100 is my D ok withbsaying she accepted? What is suppose to say when people ask did you get in? Yes, No or Maybe?
Sure, she should say she was admitted to ND’s Gateway Program. I’m happy for you guys!
rejected :(. congrats to everyone accepted!
deferred congrats to all that got in! fingers crossed for march!!
Deferred. Does anyone know what percent of deferred applicants got in last year?
@goodjob Here is some very insightful information from @GeronimoAlpaca, admitted ND REA yesterday, on the CC ND Forum dated 03/05/2018 on this subject - to folks in last year’s admission cycle:
"Don Bishop, ND’s head of enrollment, has stated in recent years that ND typically defers around 900-1000 of the REA applicants, and ultimately admits between 100-150 of them. So, using those round numbers, you could assume that the acceptance rate for deferred REA students during the RD round ranges from about 11%-15% (depending on how optimistic or pessimistic you are).
One interesting thing this year is that when ND published the REA results back in December, there was no mention of how many REA applicants got deferred. (In prior years, ND had always mentioned the number of deferrals.)
However, using past ND admissions data can be useful as a general gauge. Let’s say that ND received a total of, say, 20,000 applications this year. That’s probably a reasonable guess, as it would be just slightly higher than last year’s total of 19,566 applications.
In recent years, ND has tried to enroll a freshman class of right around 2,050 students. Last year’s total yield for the entire class was 55.4%, so ND accepted a total of 3,702 students to fill its class of 2,051 enrollees.
In this year’s REA cycle, ND received 6,598 REA apps, and accepted 1,636 of them. If the yield rate on REA admits is similar to last year’s 64% REA yield, ND would expect to fill 1,047 of its 2,050 person class with just the REA students accepted back in December.
If you reverse-engineer the math, if the total yield for the incoming class is 55.4%, that would say that ND needs to again accept a total of 3,700 students. 3,700 / 20,000 apps = 18.5% acceptance rate. Since ND accepted 1,636 in REA, that leaves 2,064 slots open in the RD round in order to get to 3,700 total acceptances.
If ND receives 20,000 total apps this year, of which 6,598 were REA, then the number of RD apps received would be 13,402. To that total, you would add in the deferrals from the REA cycle, so let’s say 1,000 deferrals. In the Regular Decision pool, that would mean 14,402 applications competing for the remaining 2,064 slots, for an estimated RD acceptance rate of 14.3%.
I just don’t think it makes all that much difference in the regular pool if you are REA deferred or an RD applicant. Either way, you’re looking at an acceptance rate probably less than 15%. Best of luck to everyone awaiting a decision this month!"
@hm527 YES!Yes! Yes! I know you all might feel conflicted and disappointed at this result, but with all of my heart I’m telling you that Gateway was the best experience my son could have had. It gave him a chance to make his ND experience his own, different from his brothers’. He made the most of his time at HCC and looked at it as a marathon, not a sprint (we’re a running family, so most of our analogies relate to that ?). He worked very hard, got involved in things that interested him (like the ND Band, which he loves!) and kept his eyes on the prize. He received academic honors from HCC his first year, and has been a 4.0 student and on the Dean’s List every semester since then. While Gateway students still have work to do to make the trip across the street to the “show,” they are in much better position than being on a traditional wait list, where there is very little one can do to affect the outcome. This process is ND’s way of keeping great, qualified students in the wings, because they know how many spots to fill they’ll have in next year’s sophomore class. The students’ feet are in the door. All of the kids in our son’s group made it, and fewer than 10 haven’t or chose not to over the life of the program (I think next year will be year 8). If ND is truly what your child wants, and he/she is willing to commit to the program and work hard for it, then this is a great option. If ND is not a passion, dream or wish for your child, then this is an opportunity to evaluate what he/she wants and look at their other options in light of this. Good luck, no matter how it turns out. The good news is your child IS going to college—now they get to choose where from many fine choices.