The GW program is 7 years solid. There’s actually legacy gateway students (siblings of course) which I though was super cool!! My D just told me her buddy‘s little sister was just accepted to ND REA and his older brother is at ND but he loves this program. Both parents went to ND as well so again, these counselors are excellent at where each child belongs.
Hence the Gateway sibling legacy mentioned by @madredos congrats to your daughter. Our D is a 7.0
Our son was admitted into GW 7.0 and loves it. He was excited that GW gave him a path to be in the ND Class of 2023. The visitation days are great…especially for the parents that are on the fence. He is very involved in both ND and HC and actually feels that the GW path may be better for a lot of students than the regular freshmen path. Over the last few years only one or two kids have not transferred over to ND. These 70 kids have all the qualities, grades, test scores, etc. ND has limited spots and they feel these kids are tough enough to handle the extra hurdle. They should be proud to be offered a GW spot. You’ll soon see how many kids would do anything to get one of these spots. The program really helps HC and it gives ND a chance to “pre-admit” half of their transfer class. It’s only been a semester but our son could not be happier with his decision. I’ll try to check back and answer questions. Good luck and Go Irish!!
Thanks so much for sharing. I’m sure my D will have many questions once she digs in and we will definitely go to an info session. Interestingly she applied to Loyola also (and Saint Mary’s). Thanks for being open and available for queries!
@Hankcat, we asked the same question. The answer is that it’s a win-win-win. Holy Cross wins by getting 70 students from the top 5% of kids in the country. This helps academics and financially it helps the school. ND wins because they have limited spots in the freshman class. This lets them take 70 more elite students and build them into the class. Instead of finding 125 students to transfer in, they already have 70 spots filled at a quality level that is equal to the rest of the class…plus they’re already part of the community. The student wins because they get an opportunity to go to Notre Dame that they might not have gotten. If they are offered a spot in GW, then ND knows they can do the work and the program is set up to help the kid succeed if they do the work. They get to do anything they want on both campuses. My son has even told me there are advantages to being in the GW program that other freshmen might not get.
If your child really wants to go to ND, this is a great opportunity. Go to the visitation days and talk to the students. They convinced me!! Good luck and Go Irish!
Hi all. I am parent of DD Gateway 7.0 (i.e. at HCC right now). It has been a good experience so far. I would say all the questions I see here were the questions I had and most prospective GW 7.0 had. Going to the visitation is highly recommended. That put a lot of our concerns to rest. I am happy to answer any questions that people might have.
Hello! I found out on Friday that I was admitted Gateway 8.0 (class of 2024) to Notre Dame. I am very honored for the opportunity but am curious about why ND didn’t defer my application to regular decision first (potentially giving me the opportunity to attend ND freshman year). Does anyone have any ideas why ND didn’t do that?
Can GW students matriculate into business or engineering at ND? Thank you
I wondered the same thing about deferment (and then offer GW if did not make it in Spring). I am assuming they saw something in the applicants they chose for GW that they thought was a better fit for the program and integration. I also would appreciate insight from current or former GW’s. Thanks!
@Betty5201 As part of their HCC/ND transfer, students tend to choose their major and college at the university, i.e. in your question including a transfer into ND MCOB or COE. It is important to consider preliminary plans at the beginning of the Gateway year and to discuss them in depth with your Gateway advisor, as those will have implications for your class schedule, which is very important for Engineering intents. Transfer into MCOB, like for Notre Dame non MCOB pre-admits, is competitive yet certainly doable, and depends to some extend on the desired business concentration.
Do you know if ND filled out its Gateway program (typically 75 students) from the pool of early admissions applicants? Or would it be about the same ratio as the class REA/Regular admissions.
@DadPayingCollege Holy Cross College (HCC) and the University of Notre Dame (ND) partnered for the Gateway program, providing a select number of students every year the opportunity to enroll at Holy Cross College with a path to an undergraduate degree from Notre Dame after 4 years - it therefore is a joint admission program with an official college transfer component which is being jointly managed and reported by both colleges accordingly.
Students offered admission into the program by HCC and ND are drawn both from ND REA and RD applicants, in about equal numbers. Due to the success of the program and its contributions to participants, HCC and ND, program size has been expanded since its inception, the final targetted class size for Gateway 8.0 yet to be determined.
GW kids are in Mendoza. My son says one of the smartest business students he knows is a girl that did GW.
This. Also, ND’s top-notch College of Engineering has a number of very successful Gateway students, as has every other ND College (Arts and Letters, Science, Business), with the possible exception of Architecture and, at current as it is brand new, the Keough School of Global Affairs.
I was advised by ND that there were 50 students selected for GW 8.0 from the REA group.
The Gateway Program is essentially a guaranteed sophomore transfer admission to ND like many universities have, but much better managed and coordinated. As noted, as much as possible, these admits are treated like ND students from day one and they integrate seamlessly into Notre Dame going forward. There is very little, if any, “quality difference” between Gateway admits and ND admits - as much as such things can ever be measured. Statistics show that Gateway students ultimately perform academically at levels consistent with all ND students (as would likely the next 1000 kids that got rejected). For students for whom ND is a clear number one choice, the Gateway Program is a no-brainer. Other students have trouble getting their minds around not getting immediately admitted to ND, and being “relegated” (in their eyes) to a lesser school/program. If Notre Dame just called these students “Sophomore ND Admits”, subject to meeting some performance criteria as Freshmen at Holy Cross, a lot of these negative optics would go away. You can view the stats of many rejected students in this year’s REA round on this site. Set against that outcome, Notre Dame is handing out an opportunity to a select few who really value Notre Dame, understand what this program is all about, and have a positive and constructive attitude about their future. It is a great option and a great outcome, though I personally know kids who elected to pass because they had other high quality options and did not want to go through the Gateway process and hurdle (though a low one). Whether their decision would have been different had they been admitted to ND is tough to know.
Question: through Gateway is it possible to double-major (with both majors in the same college at ND) and still graduate in May of 2024?
Notre Dame enrolls about 150 transfers each year. Over half of the class that graduated in 2014 would not gain admission today. The University has done a more active job in recruiting and developing its reach to more students from everywhere. The Gateway Program allows Notre Dame and students who really want ND above all other choices to use their first year at Holy Cross and then transfer to ND.The average Gateway transfer now is somewhat above the quality of students that transfer in from other colleges. 95% of the students in Gateway have been successful in going to ND as sophomores. The profile of the Gateway students (high school performance and SAT/ACT) scores would place this cohort of students as similar to the student profile at a top 25 to 35 national university. It takes a really humble kid to accept this offer…and humble parents. They make a big deal about this issue. Some parents have ranted about this being an effort to just make money for Holy Cross. ND did this to improve the quality of the transfer pool and also to give families who have a real special appreciation for ND. It is humbling for this year to be at Holy Cross but the cohort of students have done an amazing job becoming close to each other. Also most ND students now know and respect the program and are encouraging to these kids. Some schools offer spring enrollments (Cornell, USC…). ND has so few students that leave the freshman class at mid-year that it has to wait until the next academic year to start enrolling transfers. Parents with huge egos have disparaged this program. Students and parents with a sense of humility love this program!
@whiterose788 The answer to your question (double major) is not specific to Gateway students only, yet applies to all Notre Dame First-Year students: it depends on your ND College, your specific double major interests and how many, if any, academic credits your will be transferring in with. Hence it is very important to discuss your specific circumstances and preliminary plans with your Gateway Advisor during the Gateway Visit Program, which inter alia includes an Academic Advising Overview:
@oregondomer well said. I agree with everything you wrote