<p>Hello all-</p>
<p>I just got my math II score back, and it is not as high as I would have liked it to be.</p>
<p>My two SAT IIs are</p>
<p>Math II-660
Chemistry- 620</p>
<p>Because of those scores, do I even have a shot at places like Columbia, MIT, CMU, Johns Hopkins etc? </p>
<p>If more stats are required simply say so, and I will post…</p>
<p>Thanks to all who respond.</p>
<p>Those schools will definitely be stretches in all likelihood. Long stretches in some cases. Those are fine to include as stretch schools, but make sure you have your safety and match schools in your application mix as well.</p>
<p>Seems to me that most of those schools are now more akin to lotteries that anything else</p>
<p>even perfect scores are not a lock for the “most selective” of schools (e.g., my recollection is that Brown for 2012 accepted about a quarter of applicants who scored >750 on Math)</p>
<p>on the other hand students with lower SATs DO get accepted. Here’s what Columbia said for the class of 2012: “The middle 50% of admitted students scored between a 2090 and a 2300” . . . no insult meant, but that means that 25% of acceptances went to people with SATs < 2090.</p>
<p>if one or more of those schools are - honestly - a good fit for you, that will become clearer to you in the application process (essays, etc.) </p>
<p>like everyone should do, know thyself, add some acceptance and some financial aid safety schools to your mix, put your best foot forward, and know that what seems to us to be non-objective chance (institutional imperatives, forming a cohort in addition to selecting individuals, economic considerations) plays a larger role in this college process that we all like to believe</p>