<p>^But that is YOUR opinion, rjk. Others may think Michigan is not a peer of northwestern, and others my think Northwestern is a peer of Uchicago or even stanford.</p>
<p>rjk, if Michigan were as good as you say, it wouldn’t be a backup for kids who get into more competitive universities, and it would be chosen over those other places. Go ahead and call it one of the best public institutions in the country; it is. But your insistence that your opinion matters more than that of others–or matters more than FACTS–is getting old.</p>
<p>"…and others my think Northwestern is a peer of Uchicago or even stanford."</p>
<p>Ok, I’ll bite. All posters that think Northwestern is a peer of Stanford, please make your presense known.</p>
<p>Your missing my point, RJK. I don’t doubt that idea that Umich is a peer to Northwestern is a more popular OPINION than the idea that Northwestern is a peer to Stanford. But what I’m saying is everyone has their own Opinion, none of which are necessarily “wrong” or “right”- They are just opinions.</p>
<p>“I don’t doubt that idea that Umich is a peer to Northwestern …”</p>
<p>Finally, you are seeing the light!</p>
<p>sigh…I tried.</p>
<p>"…and others my think Northwestern is a peer of Uchicago or even stanford."</p>
<p>Ok, I’ll bite. All posters that think Northwestern is a peer of Stanford, please make your presense known. "</p>
<p>A “peer”? They’re both top 20 universities; that’s pretty much peer enough for me such that I think the decision at that level should be based on personal preference. In other words, I’d be indifferent about my kid choosing NU vs Stanford, but I would have a preference for NU over Michigan. I don’t personally care for the ambience and atmosphere of large public universities. That’s my personal preference; why is it so important that I change my personal preference or that you argue with it? If I wanted to dis Michigan, I would … but I don’t. It’s an excellent, top notch university.</p>
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<p>You missed my point. I don’t have a “problem” with someone saying that NU is no HYP etc because it’s of little importance to me that everyone think “oh, yes, NU is a peer of HYP.” Whatever. My self-esteem doesn’t rest on it. So why does your self-esteem rest on people having to agree on Michigan’s status?</p>
<p>“I don’t have a “problem” with someone saying that NU is no HYP etc…”</p>
<p>Then that’s fine Pizzagirl. We both have no probem with Northwestern not being a peer of Stanford. See, we do have something in common.</p>
<p>The other thing that your silly argument is doing, rjk, is representing Michigan grads in a less-than-favorable light. Do you not see this? I (and others) have successfully knocked down every specious claim you have made through 10 pages of this thread. You have shown a lack of both research and reasoning skills. Is this how you want Michigan grads to be seen? Because your blind defense of your personal beliefs is not serving the cause it seems you are trying to promote.</p>
<p>“In other words, I’d be indifferent about my kid choosing NU vs Stanford, but I would have a preference for NU over Michigan. I don’t personally care for the ambience and atmosphere of large public universities.”</p>
<p>The definition of an elitist; as if all large public universities are the same.</p>
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<p>Again, you’ve deliberately missed the point. I don’t care one way or another if you think NU is a peer of Stanford or not. I’m happy with my NU education and that’s all that matters to me. I have no need to try to “prove you wrong,” since I don’t care.</p>
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<p>The definition of someone who can’t read: Someone who interprets what I said above as “all large public universities are the same.” I didn’t say that, nor do I believe that. If I had wanted to say “all large public universities are the same” I would have said that. But I said “I don’t care for the atmosphere and ambience of large public universities.” Given that that is my personal opinion / preference, I don’t see how you can argue with it. I’m entitled to have my own personal preferences about the size of campuses that appeal to me, as well as my own personal preferences on the desirability of campuses that don’t have as much national representation. Michigan is an excellent school that I’ve “defended” plenty of times on CC, but I don’t HAVE to love it just because you do. If I were making factually incorrect statements about Michigan, you’d have room to criticize, but I haven’t said anything other than personal preferences.</p>
<p>“Again, you’ve deliberately missed the point.”</p>
<p>Probably not. I’ve already been told that I lack reasoning skills. lol</p>
<p>“Stanford>Northwestern>Michigan.”</p>
<p>/thread</p>
<p>Stanford>Michigan=Northwestern</p>
<p>/thread</p>
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<p>There is no definite ‘rule’ for which college is better. Some may prefer Northwestern over Stanford; some may prefer Michigan over Stanford; some may prefer Northwestern over Michigan or vise vice versa. Obviously, everyone has their own opinions about which college is better, for personal reasons.</p>
<p>If some people want to believe Northwestern is better than Michigan…well, who cares? It shouldn’t matter to you.</p>
<p>Continually restating your opinion will not change people’s minds.</p>
<p>I just changed my opinion:</p>
<p>Stanford>Michigan>Northwestern</p>
<p>/thread</p>
<p>henceforth, rjkofnovi shall be denoted by the definite description ‘The Michigan ■■■■■ of CC.’</p>
<p>I see you point beyphy. I don’t want to appear as a indecisive ■■■■■ so:</p>
<p>Stanford>Michigan=Northwestern</p>
<p>/thread</p>