@Spike27 I agree that one of the beauties of Tisch (at least my D found this) is that a student is not with the same 15 (or less) kids for 4 years. They can pick their friends from a larger group. They can learn from a greater group of peers. And they can learn from a greater number of faculty they will encounter over four years than in a small program. That said, as you know, they still get plenty of individual attention since the class sizes tend not to exceed 15 students, like in a small program.
This year my daughter has ballet and contemporary and I know for sure that the ballet classes are leveled. She has taken dance since she was quite young and there was a placement test for ballet and the class she is in is quite rigorous and she loves it. Also, @soozievt I don’t think it’s possible to place out of music theory completely anymore. Every freshman in NSB seems to be in music theory, just at different levels. It seems to be a very important part of the curriculum. My daughter took piano for several years when she was younger (guitar too), but she is one of the lower levels of music theory so there is quite a range of abilities. I really can’t say enough about the instructors she has. Her vocal performance, acting, speech and dance instructors are not just hugely talented professionals with outstanding performance credentials, they are truly gifted educators. From the very beginning she was amazed at how much she was learning every single day (and she isn’t a real rah rah, everything is wonderful kind of kid either). Since it is a bigger school, there was never an opportunity to sit in on classes, etc. so it wasn’t as easy to know what to expect, but as we near the end of year one, I have nothing but good things to say.
@Spike27 Perhaps in NSB you cannot place out of music theory entirely. When my D was in CAP21, Music Theory was for four semesters. She was one of only two people who entirely placed out of it, and so it was pretty rare. Like your D, my D studied two instruments growing up. My D’s piano teacher was very big on music theory. I gotta give her a lot of credit there. In fact, now my D composes original musicals, even though never trained in this at college. So, she learned a lot from her piano teacher growing up.
Just saw this - it has lots of good info about things going on now, and planned for next year
https://issuu.com/tischdrama/docs/followspot_2018-final-hq_aed48afcde8a61
Here’s another interesting tidbit about a current Tisch student (NSB student, doing his upper level training at Stonestreet) that is now appearing on the series Rise.
https://tisch.nyu.edu/drama/news/nsb-senior-appears-on-nbcs-rise
@alwaysamom - is that info about Adler? I think if I read your post correctly, the studio probably has a total of 60 students assigned to it (with 4 subgroup classes -or sesctioof approximately 15 each).
@MomofJ5 No. My D was in Atlantic, not Adler.
does anyone know how many sections there are in Adler? Thanks!
@toowonderful should be able to answer your question. Her D was in Adler.
My D’s year- there were 4 sections in Adler with 12-14 kids each… so “around” 50
This year in the first year class, there are 5 sections in Adler with about 14 students per section.
Hi everyone! we’re still on pins and needles about our decision process. Thanks for answering questions thus far.
I am still concerned with what happens?
with regards to the acceptance rate @toowonderful is the decrease in their acceptance rate, is this for the school in general ? Did Tisch decrease their acceptance rate or perhaps more people applied and although they accepted the same 300 or 400 (whatever this number is, I’m not sure), it just appears that the acceptance rate is smaller?
I know that our kids will find their own way. I was hoping to hear that many of the graduates are working, have representation, are auditioning without having to wake up and get in line.
The reason as to why my S decided to not just move to LA and go to auditions is that he wanted a degree, a foundation that would hopefully land him audition appointments without having to stand in line. Tisch is prestigious, I thought the majority would not have to wake up and stand in lines for open calls. Would anyone mind elaborating on how things are going for their kid now that school is over?
I spoke to a couple of child actors who are well known yesterday during another accepted college weekend, they said that of course it’s some luck and being preparedness, the percentage of any of the school graduates actually “Making it to the big top” is small. I expect this. I feel like the tools that our kids are learning from their BFA programs are so great in any Job Capacity! … One guy said that although he’s doing local plays, in between time, he’s an architectural tour guide who is making a Lot of $$ on the side doing this. He also said that his Degree has helped in this area a LOT.
I like this, they are still working but have some side gigs.
My S has the option of double majoring as a BFA actor and receiving a BFA in TV/Film. I hope he considers this but of course I want all of our options out on the table (THIS IS A GINROMOUS FINANCIAL INVESTMENT)
I know that I keep stressing the money portion. I have to know that I speak for many parents… the biggest question is, Although your kid has gained a world of knowledge, does he/she feel like she could’ve received the same benefits from another program? I ask because the smallest percentage from Tisch getting into something pretty mainstream is very small. I know that it looks great on a resume that he/she has attended but 5 recent grads in 2 years out of 600 recent tisch graduates is not a lot.
The deadline is nearing, I just want all of the information as possible. Of course we need to also look inward but the part of “Do not go into heavy debt for these degree’s” constantly haunt me because it’s been preached so long at my Sons school for the past 4 years. The previous Director just posted again ( he’s now in London teaching and posted again Yesterday to the current seniors… DO NOT GO INTO HEAVY DEBT FOR YOUR DEGREE as you will regret it later Sermon is still lingering )
I know that I’m rambling. I’m also rambling for the lurkers, the future parents, the everyone who is still trying to wrap their heads around the future for their kids and hopefully helping them not fall too hard although falling is part of life and is almost necessary.
I hope that my concerns aren’t gibberish and if they are, you’re able to decipher what it is that I’m asking
bottom line, Was it, Is it WORTH IT? would they now consider getting a degree elsewhere and finding NYU for their Masters ?
thanks for reading all of this. Today I woke up with a moment
@actingdreams - the 19% was for NYU as a whole… not Tisch
@actingdreams I understand all of your concerns. I can only speak from my D’s experience at Tisch. As to your last question – my D will absolutely say Tisch was worth it and still thinks it was the best decision. She also feels that after graduating with a BFA, it is now time to put her training to the test and start working so she is not interested in getting a masters at this point. As I have said in other posts, she feels that the connections she has made in Tisch has made her part of the NYC acting community and has given her a leg up in meeting with agents and casting directors. Professors from Tisch have recommended her for projects, students she graduated with have contacted her to be in their projects, and alumni from Tisch have reached out to her to participate in their projects. So many working actors, directors, producers, film makers and writers in NYC have connections to Tisch, that they make what can be an overwhelming world seem smaller and more familiar. Is she making a lot of money as a working actress yet? No, but she is not even out of school a year. However, she has consistently worked on small independent films, small theater productions, web series, and voice overs since she has graduated. She works very hard everyday to get these projects but many of them are a result of knowing somebody from Tisch who was in some way involved with the project. She supplements her income working as a hostess because she wants a work schedule that is as flexible as possible to allow her to go to as many auditions as possible and to say yes to as many projects as possible. We also help to support her. We supported her in pursuing this career since she was a little girl knowing full well that the chances of getting out of school and getting work that will allow her to be self-supporting would be almost impossible and that we would still need to help her out financially for a while. We tell her to look at these first few years as her graduate school. We would have paid for her to go graduate school. As an actor, the best way to get work is to work your butt off to get work. Just like some professions require a year or two of graduate school, acting requires at least a year or two of working at jobs before you get to one that allows you to support yourself. I know that not everybody agrees with me and I don’t think everybody should, it is a personal choice and this is the choice our family has made. But going back to your original question, for my D, Tisch was definitely worth it.
@actingdreams I cannot answer well because I am in the same position. In the final phase of decision making and it is overwhelming. We went to accepted students Weekend on the Square and visited Tisch yesterday so just some impressions-
I was just telling someone that it felt like entering a really cool new small country full of artists of all kinds. The future movers and shakers. The studio’s felt like small intense towns in the amazing country. I think the student that would thrive at NYU would be highly driven and motivated. It was wonderful and my daughter will likely choose it (unless she comes off Purchase WL- which she thinks would be a painfully and hard choice for her- she wouldn’t want to let go of either).
One could make a case for Tisch being more real world ( still exceptional training) but some people will want a smaller school during these formative years or dislike their system. For my daughter it felt like the real deal. Inspiring.
We also loved that it is a very far reaching international school. So many countries represented. It felt global and current and vibrant.
There will be challenges. I don’t think it’s an easy laid back place but most actors seeking a BFA thrive on intensity.
The statistic you site may not truly represent because many many actors in this setting branch out. They become the writers, directors etc and NYU has much success and far reaching connections in many area’s.
I will be excited for my girl there but nervous as he** (because I’m that way). I did move to NYC at 17 and I do have it deep in my bones. I love NY.
So I guess I drank the violet cool-aid yesterday but after this exhausting process it feels good to be excited!
I don’t have Depaul for my girl to choose from though. That would be very tempting. For your son you are choosing between amazing programs …you just can’t go wrong. I DO agree about the dept. You son has done so well though I can imagine you might be able to get more $$ from wherever you end up choosing. He’s done so well. There just is no wrong answer!
thanks for explaining your experience @jbtcat the work is important. I’m not expecting a straight from school to stardom but working in the industry in some capacity seems promising. Would you say your Daughters experience is about the same @toowonderful in regards to working in the industry right now? I thank you again for all of your help
@laylamom it’s a struggle! Thanks for explaining the Square experience. My S had 2 accepted weekends to choose from. Since we were just there, he decided to do DePaul as he knows the “Feel” of NYC and has read information and received info from current friends in the Tisch program. It’s still for me seems like not to be enough (as to why i keep pandering the parents here lol ) Thanks for the calming answers. I’m hoping we can make a decision soon. I just knew this weekend would seal the deal, I guess he just isn’t ready to decide. I’ll keep you posted! thanks again
@actingdreams - my D will graduate in May. I think @jbtcat ‘s post really hit the nail on the head. D has been a part of several projects this semester (a play that will be done off off off off bway, and a film that has been submitted to several festivals) that were created by her NYU peers and alum. Her combat professor uses her as an assistant for outside classes he teaches (at Marymount and Fordham) which will net her enough $$ each month to cover her rent (a room in a rent controlled apt!) She has 4 years of familiarity with NYC. She’s seen easily 100+ shows on and off bway (which can sometimes be less expensive than a movie in NYC) which has been an education in and of itself. Perhaps most important of all - she has been a part of a large and dynamic community of artists - as @laylamom said above… when you are there you get the feeling that you are seeing the next generation of art.
@laylamom I’m still drinking the violet kool aid! LOL. I love your description of NYU!
@toowonderful that is so awesome that your D works as an assistant for her combat professor! My D’s one regret is that due to her schedule choices she was never able to take the stage combat class! I’m sure she would be jealous! LOL
@jbtcat - D essentially ended up with a “minor” in stage combat - and is a certified actor combatant - which comes up a LOT at her auditions. She did fight choreography for several NYU student shows this semester, and has a paid gig doing that coming up in a couple weeks as well