<p>I am now befuddled and amazed…
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<p>Wasn’t this guy who slammed him and he slammed back?</p>
<p>What? He was supposed to insult Clinton supporters by saying, “No, I don’t want Bill clinton campaigning for me. I think he’s a loose cannon who might do more harm than good.”? </p>
<p>Nope. Best not to burn any bridges, if you can avoid it. The Clintons are still a force to be reckoned with in Washington, and their fans are feeling grumbly right about now, to say the least.</p>
<p>It’s politics…:rolleyes:</p>
<p>As someone pointed out in another thread (perhaps zoosermom?), Obama is charismatic, but there are very, very few people on Earth with Bill Clinton’s ability to make anyone like him, even if only temporarily.</p>
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<p>Of course. No surprises here. It happens every election. The candidates of the same party spend a year calling each other whores, liars, and thieves. But then the party somehow miraculously comes together at or before the convention, and they suddenly are back to holding each other in the highest regard.</p>
<p>Obama insulting Bill at this point would show as much bad sportsmanship as Hillary has shown by not conceding.</p>
<p>Is it possible that Bill and Obama have more in common than we think? Maybe neither one really wanted Hillary to be President. ;)</p>
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<p>Bush is campaigning for McCain now, right? Remember how ugly that primary was 8 years ago? 8 years is a long time but this is politics; anything to win.</p>
<p>Bill and Hillary will appear in more Republican ads this Fall than Democratic ads. Thanks Hil and Bill.</p>
<p>So true FF…all we are going to see is Hillary slamming him and reminding everyone what she felt. The RNC already has 1 where she states Sen. McCain has national experience, I have national experience, Obama’s national experience is a keynote speech he gave in 04. And that is just the beginning.</p>
<p>"Bill and Hillary will appear in more Republican ads this Fall than Democratic ads.'</p>
<p>I am not sure that will help McCain at all. It could actually backfire.</p>
<p>I think that if Senator Obama makes the choice to have Hillary as his runningmate, they will be a formidable team come November. All the usual bickering in the primary season (which, in my opinion, has been overstated) will be forgotten as it always is. I don’t think there’s anything at all surprising about Senator Obama wanting Bill, who is still incredibly popular with many people, to campaign for him.</p>
<p>The concept that your opponents are not your enemies is really central to Obama’s pitch. I would be very disappointed if he had done anything less re: Bill.</p>
<p>^^My sentiments exactly, Hanna.</p>
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I disagree strongly with you on that point, alwaysamom. Everything Obama does from now on–everything–will be geared toward appealing to the swing voters he needs to win (disaffected Republicans and independents). He needs to pick someone like Jim Webb (combat-decorated vet, served under Reagan, appeals to “Appalachian” working-class voters). (I don’t think it’s going to be Webb.) Obama would be stupid to pick Clinton–and stupid to alienate any part of the Democratic base by dissing either Clinton. He’s not stupid.</p>
<p>He’s walking a fine line. If he wants to appeal to swing voters who are drawn to Clinton’s style, he’ll pick someone who has her strengths and none of her weaknesses and who complements his own strengths and weaknesses. The primary is over.</p>
<p>I doubt Bill will campaign for Obama after all the racism crap that Obama people have leveled against him. For anyone to question the civil rights credentials of Bill is just pathetic.</p>
<p>Bill has helped raise a lot of money for an organization involved with HIV outreach programs in low income communities in New York. African Americans make up the highest percentage of new HIV cases every year in this country, and this money help get the message across about the dangers of unprotected sex. Gay teens in the community are at a much higher risk, this group is so vulnerable, and they need all the resources to help them make an informed decision. </p>
<p>Bill, as far as I am concerned, you can do no wrong. You are helping us save a lot of lives, and for me, that is more important than what the so called leaders of the African American communities are saying about you. These same leaders are renting Cadillacs at $800 a month at tax payers expense, while schools in their districts can’t even afford school supplies. </p>
<p>I hope you come back to the Foundation soon to help us raise more money to get our message accros. We are highly indebted to you for all the help you have provided.</p>
<p>Mudder’s_Mudder, I think that the issue of him attracting “disaffected Republicans and independents” is not as large as some would believe. Individuals in those two groups who are tempted to vote for Obama are unlikely to have that decision affected by his choice of a runningmate, in my opinion. Her strengths, her base of supporters, her infrastructure, her contacts, not to mention her ability, and that of Bill, to campaign, rally, and maintain support cannot be matched by someone like Jim Webb, who nine out of ten people, maybe more, probably have never heard of and couldn’t identify.</p>
<p>Hillary may not be his choice, who knows at this point, but if she is, I’m confident that her strengths will far outweigh any weaknesses she may possess.</p>
<p>“The concept that your opponents are not your enemies is really central to Obama’s pitch. I would be very disappointed if he had done anything less re: Bill.”</p>
<p>I agree. That’s a big reason why I support him. I think that he has the kind of problem solving abilities that are needed in this world.</p>
<p>Good point. You may be right.</p>
<p>Edited to add: I was thinking of people who are looking for an excuse not to vote Republican or who lean Democratic but are nervous about Obama. Those people won’t be brought on board by Hillary.</p>
<p>Tega says: I doubt Bill will campaign for Obama after all the racism crap that Obama people have leveled against him. For anyone to question the civil rights credentials of Bill is just pathetic.</p>
<p>Let’s be clear about this. It wasn’t “Obama’s people” who played the racism card. It was the media who called Bill on his questionable comments. Many African Americans also found Bill’s comments objectionable - they are Obama supporters, but again it wasn’t Obama’s team who raised the issue. You cannot blame Obama for the actions of his supporters.</p>
<p>tega: You know Clinton the philanthropist and the ex-President. He is that, but he is also a good old-fashioned politician who will use any card he can in an election- even the race card if it helps him win over some racist voters.</p>