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<p>Spidey - I don’t know how much response you’ll get to this thread. No one wants to acknowledge anything “negative” about Obama. Everyone is so busy trying to keep him from toppling off his pedestal that they don’t have time to look at the reality of this candidacy. </p>
<p>But I appreciate you posting this - I hadn’t even read it yet.</p>
<p>So a bunch of Obama haters get together for a hate convention…
And that’s supposed to warrant comment? Guess what? The sun rose today----</p>
<p>Again!:eek:</p>
<p>It’s really comical that you portray us a “haters” just b/c we happen to disagree with the idea that Obama is the greatest thing sinced sliced pumpernickel.</p>
<p>I don’t “hate” anyone or anything. In fact, we don’t even allow the use of that word in our household.</p>
<p>Obama is just MARVELOUS, isn’t he! I MARVEL at him every day!</p>
<p>I believe you are Obama haters because you just love to find anything you can to help justify your Obama-bashing. You hate him because everyone loves him. </p>
<p>Instead of building up any alternative, which you can’t do because John Mccain neither does nor produces anything worth attention, and takes at least half and hour to articulate a comprehensible sentence, you constantly focus your attention on Obama. </p>
<p>You’re just as centered on him as anybody else, you guys are just rebellious about it.</p>
<p>bz, it’s really comical that you portray everyone who doesn’t constantly bash Obama for every possible thing as a mindless follower who believes he is the second coming of Jesus/the greatest thing since sliced pumpernickel.</p>
<p>I respect Obama, and I plan to vote for him. I don’t love him, and he wasn’t my first pick amongst the Democrats. But I think he is the best we’ve got. I don’t think a single poster on this forum is incapable of seeing his flaws, and you’re being deeply insulting.</p>
<p>seems to me theres way more Obama bashing on this forum than McCain bashing</p>
<p>cathy, I’m pretty sure a statistical analysis would prove you correct. :)</p>
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I dont think statistics are needed,its obvious.The so called Obama lovers are much more polite,rational and mild mannered.</p>
<p>I think that normal criticism of Obama is viewed as bashing…</p>
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<p>How so? I just said I didn’t hate him & I thought he was marvelous!</p>
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<p>Depends on the thread, cathymee, depends on the thread.</p>
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<p>I guess I’m going to have to create a “copy & paste” document so I can post McCain’s achievements w/out having to go thru the whole long list every time! </p>
<p>Here’s a recent proposal in the meantime:
(Ever hear of The Lexington Project"?)</p>
<p>[John</a> McCain 2008 - John McCain for President](<a href=“http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/eb4563f3-e78b-4229-afda-8610092d0df2.htm]John”>http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/eb4563f3-e78b-4229-afda-8610092d0df2.htm)</p>
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<p>Kathy, you may be, but, I think if you take the time to read through many of the threads, both old and new, there’s no monopoly on snarky rudeness by one side or the other. It’s equal opportunity bashing with sprinkles of wisdom and truth thrown in for flavor.</p>
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<p>I’m sorry, was your continued use of sarcastic, snarky comments supposed to get your point across? Classy.</p>
<p>I agree with AG, I have seen a lot of Obama supporters saying very rude things…just read one about Cindy McCain. People are going to support their candidate, some will defend politely and some will be rude. </p>
<p>To make the generalization that Obama supports are polite, rationale and mild mannered is to insinuate that McCain supporters are rude, irrational with poor manners. Kind of ironic, that you as an Obama supporter was rude to a McCain supporter regarding that generalization</p>
<p>unreg - no sarcasm intended.</p>
<p>I truly do not “hate” Obama (or anyone, as I’ve explained repeatedly), and I truly DO thnk Obama is “marvelous”.</p>
<p>What’s snarky or sarcastic about that?</p>
<p>And when it comes to getting my point across, my point-by-point posts speak for themselves. I do not need to resort to snarkiness or sarcasm to get my points across - good old-fashioned logic & facts do that for me!</p>
<p>Now, I won’t say that I haven’t tried to post a humorous comment every now & then - I DO think that one can open many lines of communication w/ a quick-witted remark, or a joke. And I think one can earn some respect among “adversaries” if the conversation is kept light-hearted, friendly & respectFUL. I have ardently tried to do that in my posts. Sorry if you don’t agree.</p>
<p>bz, I respect that you have probably posted more positive things about McCain than negative pieces on Obama, I think you’re in a minority there amongst McCain supporters. I don’t appreciate the repeated jabs at Obama supporters believing he can do no wrong. I don’t believe that, and I think it is a slimey tactic. When we defend him against accusations which we might not think are entirely fair, it is easy to trivialize the defense by saying that his supporters are blind to all of his shortcomings. I don’t believe that Obama is “the best thing since sliced bread”, but I think he is certainly the best option we’ve got.</p>
<p>If you actually want to know who Obama is, spideygirl, why don’t you read Dreams of My Father and find out? You can probably get it from the library, so that you won’t have to put any $$ into the hands of the candidate of the evil Democratic Party.</p>
<p>I am not in any way an “Obama hater”. I genuinely admire the guy (just not as a candidate for president). I am really hoping that he does not get elected because I disagree with his politics. It’s a naive to call people who are supporting McCain “haters”. </p>
<p>The Krauthammer piece is great because it sums up what is going on. People are so mesmerized with Obama’s charm that they are forgetting to factor in his total lack of experience. Perhaps he is beginning to believe his own press as well. How could he not? </p>
<p>Seriously - when he comes into town, make sure you have the palms ready!</p>
<p>I heard something funny today. Jesus had the Three Wise Men, and Obama has the anchors on all three major networks.</p>
<p>I really would not bother reading a book by someone who has accomplished so little and then wrote a book about themselves. There are many books written about people who have accomplished so very much. I’ll read them first, thank you. It could take decades to get through them all, so I bet I won’t get to Obama’s book. </p>
<p>I don’t need to read his book to know that he is brilliant, charismatic, and a good person. I can see all that. Assessing his credentials can be done without the book as well. He has hardly any. Most importantly, he is incredibly liberal, and will ruin our economy. Why do I need to read the book?</p>
<p>Some of the most beautiful and moving memoirs I have ever read have been by people who were previously unknown but had unusual upbringings. I don’t scoff at them for writing about their experiences.</p>