Obama and "The Audacity of Vanity", or - Who IS this guy?

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Actually, that was a lie. [VetVoice::</a> Bush Finally Speaks to the Ultimate Wartime Sacrifice](<a href=“http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1241]VetVoice::”>http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1241) He gave up golf because he hurt his leg, then made up a story about giving it up after the death of a specific serviceman - which turned out to be… wait for it… yes, a lie, since he actually continued to play golf for months after that event. </p>

<p>I know lying by Republicans gets a pass from you guys, while anything Obama does or doesn’t is proof to you that he’s arrogant elitist radical lickspittle devilspawn, but at least try to pick your stories better when comparing his actions to those of your heroes. :wink:

Well, that explains a lot, I guess… :)</p>

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<p>bz–You’ll be pleased to know that my state (Kentucky) is solidly in the McCain column. :mad:</p>

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<p>Same with my dad, ilsa. He served in both WWII and Korea. Never heard him refer to “krauts,” but I cringed every time he said “Japs.”</p>

<p>Oh, here’s another take on the current polling.</p>

<p>[Rasmussen</a> Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.](<a href=“http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history]Rasmussen”>http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history)</p>

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<p>bedhead - how in the world do you say, *McCain * kept him from visiting troops?? </p>

<p>You’ve posted some outlandish things before, but that may take the cake!</p>

<p>The other thing that is weird is that Obama is spinning this as “BO cancels trip * out of concern for the troops*”.</p>

<p>Give me a BREAK!</p>

<p>Kluge here are two versions make up uour own mind</p>

<p>Y’all, I’m going to repost the AP report from this morning, lest we’ve forgotten since post #404.</p>

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<p>I think DOD said, he could visit as a senator with his senate staff - just his groupies were not allowed.</p>

<p>This is a fun piece</p>

<p>[He</a> ventured forth to bring light to the world | Gerard Baker - Times Online](<a href=“The Times & The Sunday Times: breaking news & today's latest headlines”>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece)</p>

<p>I’ll be glad when Obama gets back to the US and back to campaigning as usual. But I have to admit that his foreign trip has made for some hysterical Daily Show moments…for example, juxtaposing Obama speaking to 200,000 in Berlin against McCain’s campaign stop that day (grocery store aisle where cans fell off the shelf while the film was rolling).</p>

<p>Well, Hindoo, you get props for “cringing,” but imo, that statement does not disqualify JSM from being president.</p>

<p>Someone was just telling me about that JSM video - it sounds hilarious!</p>

<p>Simba, you can always count on the British to deliver a unique sense of humor. The article was so funny.</p>

<p>Simba,</p>

<p>My daughter sent me that article this morning.</p>

<p>Very well done and very funny!</p>

<p>I’m so senile, I’d already forgotten “cringing,” somewhere along the line. But then it came back to me. … Now, I can’t remember what JSM said that you are referring to. I’m in pitiful shape–I’d never make a good POTUS.</p>

<p>Hindoo - The way this thread is zigging and zagging, I was just thinking the same thing - who are we to accuse JSM of senility? :)</p>

<p>Good point, ilsa.</p>

<p>I have to say, I hate all these acronyms and initials in the posts. </p>

<p>I get lost trying to connect the players with the nicknames. I especially dislike “BO” for obvious reasons.</p>

<p>Now, for me, Woodwork, writing WW seems about right; but these two are both sitting senators running for president. </p>

<p>In this age of texting I just prefer a little, even a bit, of decorum and clarity.</p>

<p>Just a preference, not a rant.</p>

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<p>^^This is a joke, right??? :eek:</p>

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<p>We really don’t use THAT many acronyms and initials, Woodwork. Why, I went back a few “pages” on this thread and all I could find were: FYI, USNA, BTW, CEO, BHO, PA, BZ, JFK, IMO, BC, SAT, FDR, CC, JIM, MSNBC, PR, AMD WWII, WWIII, PC, WSJ, NYT, LOL, POTUS, GWB, BO, HYPS, JSM, FISA, RNC, VA, UK, DOD, and O. :)</p>

<p>kluge, do you really think President Bush gave up golf as a pander (and lie, as you said) to the public as you suggest? Is it significant, some 5 years after the fact, whether he gave up golf in August or October after 5 years? Who among us has a memory that reliable about less than extraordinary events after some 1825 days?</p>

<p>What’s significant is that he gave it up - for some 5 five years. Maybe it IS a pander for attention - but unless you have proof he’s still playing or why he quit I’d say your remarks about this are merely partisan.</p>

<p>Bloggers without access to the president posting about his reasons for whatever do not constitute proof nor is such online ranting persuasive.</p>

<p>Mini also weighs in from time to time on various subjects and discusses this or that, frequently with some tough analysis and comments. The difference is he also will post links that can be persuasive - even to a conservative like me. ;)</p>

<p>btw - Hindoo, the Pentagon would not allow Obama to make a huge media event out of his planned visit to the wounded troops. He could visit as a US Senator, but not exploit the affair. I am shocked Obama would be so crass to refuse to visit our wounded soldiers. :frowning: </p>

<p>*Chief Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell confirmed to Politico that Department of Defense officials cautioned Barack Obama’s campaign that his planned visit to wounded American troops in Germany could not be political in nature and that he would be barred from bringing along campaign staff and reporters. He also said that Cindy McCain recently requested to visit sailors aboard the U.S.N.S. Comfort and was denied.</p>

<p>“Sen. Obama is welcome to visit Landstuhl or any military hospital in his official capacity as a United States senator,” Morrell said in a brief interview. “But there is a DOD policy which governs campaigning and electioneering at military facilities that would have to be respected if he were to visit. That distinction was relayed and made clear to campaign, and they made a decision on their own based on that guidance.”</p>

<p>Morrell, in a subsequent interview, added that military officials told Obama he could only visit the military facility with his Secret Service detail and Senate staff.</p>

<p>“We made it clear to him that campaign staff and press would not be permitted to accompany him,” Morrell said of Obama. “We relayed those ground rules. They made a choice based upon the information we relayed to them. It was their choice. We had nothing to do with it.”* </p>

<p>See: [Jonathan</a> Martin’s Blog: DOD spokesman says Obama camp was reminded of political rules - Politico.com](<a href=“http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0708/DoD_spokesman_says_Obama_camp_was_reminded_of_political_rules.html]Jonathan”>DOD spokesman says Obama camp was reminded of political rules - - POLITICO.com)</p>

<p>And also - about McCain’s potty mouth…so what? If McCain had taken the easy way out of the North Vietnamese prison and exploited his father’s high position in the Navy to get home, I’d agree with you.</p>

<p>However, the many selfless acts McCain undertook for others makes his juvenile cursing of little importance. I have a pretty good idea what McCain would do to protect the United States, probably with him cursing and showing temper the entire way. I have no confidence in Senator Obama, by contrast. Obama has not demonstrated to me he’s anything but just another northern, liberal politician…who will say anything to get elected.</p>