Obama and "The Audacity of Vanity", or - Who IS this guy?

[Hindoo]

<p>Apropos of nothing … except, perhaps, “vanity.”</p>

<p>[Let's</a> Play: If I Were a Right Wing Blogger - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080730/cm_thenation/917340726_1]Let’s”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080730/cm_thenation/917340726_1)</p>

[StickerShock]

<p>Pretty funny stuff from Peter Kirsanow at National Review:

Pop quiz for the press corps. Which of the following phrases is not attributable to Sen. Obama?:</p>

<p>—“People of the world — this is our moment.”</p>

<p>—“We are the change we’ve been waiting for.”</p>

<p>—“I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions.”</p>

<p>—“I am the way and the truth and the life.”</p>

<p>—“I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment… when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”</p>

<p>—“I am a …Citizen of the World.”</p>

<p>—“Vero Possemus.”

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[Hindoo]

<p>I wonder who these quotes belong to? Hmmmm. Let’s guess.</p>

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“Washington is a Hollywood for ugly people. Hollywood is a Washington for the simpleminded.”

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“F*** you! I know more about this than anyone else in the room.”
–To Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), during a testy exchange about immigration legislation

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“No, I’m calling you a f***ing jerk.”
–To Sen. Chuck Grassley, when Grassley asked “Are you calling me stupid?”

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“The nice thing about Alzheimer’s is you get to hide your own Easter eggs.”

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“Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father.” --At a 1998 Republican fundraiser

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“At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c**t.”
—To his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You’re getting a little thin up there.

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“You know that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Iran? Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.”

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[bz2010]

<p>Hindoo - sorry, but most of those McCain quotes are pretty old - and they were either said in jest or in the heat of debate (w/ people he is on good terms with now).</p>

<p>The Obama quotes are current and serious.</p>

<p>Big difference.</p>

[Hindoo]

<p>OK, bz, you’re right. Some of them are old, but I couldn’t resist! … But Obama’s Christ complex, if he has one, just doesn’t bother this old agnostic. I’ve seen plenty of one-on-one interviews with him, wherein he comes across as very likable, down-to-earth, smart, funny … just plain nice. His speechifying (as Bush would say) does go over-the-top on occasion. Maybe he needs to rein in his speech writers, calm them down; or hire writers who like but don’t worship him!</p>

[StickerShock]

<p>Well, he apologized for the nasty Chelsea comment. And I am sick to death of hearing the unsubstantiated quote about Cindy. Nobody has ever verified that one, and it is repeated constantly.</p>

<p>I agree with the first quote. I like & respect Conryn a lot, so McCain was definitely wrong on that one. Grassley might very well have been acting like a jerk; I don’t get too worried about heated arguments over policy & the use of vulgar language among our representatives. McCain is know to be self-depricating about his age, so that would explain the Alzheimer’s crack (although it would be quite hurtful to families dealing with this illness.) While the bomb Iran comment is not very witty, it is one of the many realistic possibilities that any US Senator would be discussing while our nation is at war.</p>

[Hindoo]

<p>Let’s see, StickerShock. Everything that comes out of Obama’s mouth is somehow scary and egomaniacal. But whatever McCain says, no matter how crass, mean-spirited, wrong, or stupid … well, that’s OK.</p>

[coggirl]

<p>Those quotes that McCain allegedly made to his wife are scary. It is difficult not to consider the comments in light of the Chelsea comment.
Obama has some challenges, but his gaffs are so insignificant when compared to McCain. I am so embarrassed that I considered voting for him earlier in his political career.</p>

[Newjack88]

<p>I agree with coggirl. I seriously doubt whether or not McCain truly respects women. He cheated on his first wife when she was paralyzed!!!?</p>

[Hindoo]

<p>Yet … (I’m playing the devil’s advocate here) … McCain’s campaign has more high-level, highly-paid women on staff than does Obama’s. Someone brought this up at one point and I checked it for accuracy. Alas, it’s true. … McCain probably doesn’t disrespect women any more than he does men. He’s pretty foul-mouthed, and has been more-or-less equal-opportunity in leveling vile invective at both genders. :)</p>

[zoosermom]

<p>^^ That’s why I like you so much Hindoo. You’re fair and balanced!</p>

[tega]

<p>Has anyone heard the new song by Ludacris?</p>

[cartera45]

<p>bz - haven’t you heard? The next time Obama goes overseas, he’s walking.</p>

[hr35hrn]

<p>In Germany any fool or fraud can speak at Brandenburg and Obama got 200,000 people to listen to him 5X what the great Reagan got. Obama also clearly stated that he was not a head of state and came to Germany as only a Citizen.</p>

[marite]

<p>tega:</p>

<p>I have not heard it (I don’t listen to rap), but I read that Obama has soundly criticized it. </p>

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Obama camp condemns song: Ludacris ‘should be ashamed’</p>

<p>Barack Obama’s campaign is condemning a song by the rapper Ludacris that praises Obama and bitterly attacks Senators Hillary Clinton and John McCain.</p>

<p>“As Barack Obama has said many, many times in the past, rap lyrics today too often perpetuate misogyny, materialism, and degrading images that he doesn’t want his daughters or any children exposed to,” said spokesman Bill Burton. “This song is not only outrageously offensive to Senator Clinton, Reverend Jackson, Senator McCain, and President Bush, it is offensive to all of us who are trying to raise our children with the values we hold dear. While Ludacris is a talented individual he should be ashamed of these lyrics.”

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<p>[Ben</a> Smith’s Blog: Political News about Democrats and the 2008 Election - Politico.com](<a href=“http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/]Ben”>http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/)</p>

<p>Now, if you want funny, Letterman has ten signs that Obama is overconfident.</p>

[tega]

<p>marite, </p>

<p>The lyrics was just too bad. He said some not so good things about Hillary and McCain. He should have stuck to praising Obama, and how he is happy that a Black man has a real chance to be president.</p>

[ag54]

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Obama also clearly stated that he was not a head of state and came to Germany as only a Citizen

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<p>Oh come on! What he “stated” and what was implied and insinuated in his speech - “People of Berlin, People of the World, it is our moment, it is our time.” - are clearly two different things. Most ordinary citizens don’t go around making these types of messianic claims to crowds of 200,000. </p>

<p>Did he feed them with a few loaves of bread and a little bit of wine too?</p>

[hr35hrn]

<p>What are you doing on a college website - you obviously didn’t go to college</p>

[parent2noles]

<p>No, marite. My sarcastic remark (which I always regret, as churlish remarks and banter are a waste of time and energy in my opinion) was not aimed at you.</p>

<p>Sorry if I gave you that impression.</p>

<p>I’ll have to look back and see what any other question concerned, but I doubt if it was anything notable.</p>

[Hindoo]

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That’s why I like you so much Hindoo. You’re fair and balanced!

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<p>Oh, I try, Zoosermom! I’m not usually very successful, but now and then … ;)</p>

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Haven’t you heard? The next time Obama goes overseas, he’s walking.

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<p>Very good, Cartera!</p>