Obama questions McCain's patriotism

<p>I don’t think Obama wants to compare resume with McCain; he has ABSOLUTELY NO EXPERIENCE in anything that will indicate that he can handle the job of a Commander in Chief.</p>

<p>His resume will look absolutely pathetic next to McCain’s.</p>

<p>^^given the fact that your statement that Obama questioned McCain’s patriotism is categorically wrong, we can reasonably extrapolate that everything else you say is mistaken as well. Stupid and clueless, indeed.</p>

<p>drb, have you ever noticed that Obama gets into a lot of these situations where someone closely connected with him says something ridiculous, and he suddenly has to completely disavow and shun that person?! It’s called dishonesty, my friend: political bull****</p>

<p>Also, given the fact that you use terms like “stupid” and “clueless” to describe someone categorically smarter and wiser than you, we can reasonably assume that no one should listen to anything you say :)</p>

<p>and tega, is absolutely right. Obama is the most unqualified candidate I’ve ever seen in my life. He’s gotten this far only because the vast majority of Americans are completely ignorant or real-world issues.</p>

<p>Tega… I just explained in post #198 why it is that a working student at Columbia U. would not necessarily have any record of employment. Do I have to spell it out for you?</p>

<p>No you don’t have to spell it to me, the fact is, he only provided references for two jobs. He DID not say I did odd jobs which can not be verified. </p>

<p>He did not not work his way through school, anyone who worked his way through school remembers most of the jobs they did even if they can not be verified.</p>

<p>I worked my way through school, and I did some odd jobs along the way. It is a fact, Obama never said he did those odd jobs, the extrapolation is all being done by you.</p>

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<p>I don’t think I have to spell it to you here.</p>

<p>I have no problem remembering every single job I ever had. Maybe the exact years are sketchy, but the jobs themselves, especially during a finite period of time people are asking BHO, like college and law school, would be easy. And after all, isn’t BHO a genius? Did he tutor? Did he bartend? If he wants to beef up his cred as a “regular guy” one would think he’d be more forthcoming about his jobs in the good old American tradition of “working through school” with all the regular folks.</p>

<p>But I’m ready to stand corrected if more details are uncovered!</p>

<p>Hookem - you are still pushing the lie that anyone anywhere, Obama proxy or not, questioned McCain’s patriotism. Stupid and clueless is a generous description.</p>

<p>Ok, regardless…let’s assume Obama never had anything to do with this, and there is no patriotism-questioning involved.</p>

<p>The man is still completely and utterly unqualified to be commander-in-chief.
He makes lots of promises, but has absolutely no experience to back them up.</p>

<p>If terrorism gets any worse, with Obama at the helm <em>shudder</em>, we’ll sink before we even know what hit us.</p>

<p>Hindoo- Michelle is whining. As far as I can tell, all she’s done is work for one law firm, and then a hospital “diversity” program, at an inflated salary due to her husband’s connections. She attends her daughter’s recitals and carpools them around to their extracurriculars, and complains about the cost of them. She attended Princeton and Harvard, for Pete’s sake, and she’s complaining that they just paid off their loans! She’s not the only person to have grown up in a two bedroom house–oh the deprivation! </p>

<p>At least Cindy has done a massive amount of good with her charity work - what has Michelle accomplished exactly? (Oh, that’s right - they’re going to pay back for their privilege by becoming our President and First Lady.)</p>

<p>Last night CNN had a profile of Obama and McCain. The part about the Obamas was awestruck adoration, of course, and the part on the McCains focused on the Keating Five and Cindy’s addiction and stroke.</p>

<p>I doubt CNN intended this, but I came away with the feeling that the McCains are <em>adults</em> who have had the grit to overcome REAL obstacles, and the Obamas are still just kids who have hardly gotten their feet wet.</p>

<p>Take away the perceived “obstacle” of their race, and no one would have taken them seriously as contenders for the White House for a second.</p>

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<p>No, terpdad, I don’t think I will. Even John McCain has said that it was an absolute DISGRACE what Bush’s band of merry chicken-hawks did to Kerry in the process of “swift-boating” him in 2004. John Kerry had returned honorably from a tour of duty in Vietnam–unlike Bush, who kept the skies over Texas safe (when he wasn’t AWOL), and Cheney, who had “other priorities” than serving his country. Kerry’s conscience dictated that he formally protest the conduct of a war that he had witnessed first hand. Much of his testimony before Congress had to do with the increasingly monstrous acts being perpetrated on civilians by soldiers from both sides of the conflict as the war dragged on and on and on. His conscience forced him to speak out. So, exactly how did this make him a traitor? And how did it make it OK for the Bush propaganda machine to later lie about the service record of an honorably discharged, three-time Purple Heart-awarded soldier in an effort to make him look like a coward? Please, educate me terpdad.
Here’s a link to snopes.com site debunking the swift boat myth of Kerry’s “cowardice.”</p>

<p>[snopes.com:</a> John Kerry’s Service Record](<a href=“http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp]snopes.com:”>John Kerry's Service Record | Snopes.com)</p>

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<p>Indeed. A stupid and clueless populace–who re-elected GWB. No other way to describe them!</p>

<p>Just because I’m conservative, doesn’t mean I support Bush. I can’t stand him.</p>

<p>Don’t judge too quickly…</p>

<p>You’re right, hookem. I know plenty of conservatives who have become completely disillusioned with Bush. Barry Goldwater must be spinning in his grave after these past eight years of fiscal irresponsibility.</p>

<p>Right. Just because I’m pro-life and anti-Socialism (<em>cough</em> Hillary and Obama), doesn’t mean I’m a fan of third-grade public speaking skills, ridiculous spending, and unwarranted attacks…</p>

<p>hookem–Are you an enthusiastic McCain supporter? Or one of those who will hold their noses while they vote for him?</p>

<p>It’s a lesser of two evils thing :/</p>

<p>The issue of this thread was to question Obama’s use of proxies (like retired general Wesley Clark) to attack McCain. In this instance, McCain’s courage under fire was questioned by Clark as a qualification for President. Of course, the “leadership” angle was omitted by Clark, which clearly is a particularly apt qualification for president. I equated the attack by Clark to basically be said by Obama, even though Obama denied he’d do such a thing and scolded Clark in about the same breath (I don’t believe Obama’s denial, in other words, and think the whole affair was a structured attack). </p>

<p>We then see those who favor Obama argue that Obama was not even involved and that Obama (softly) disavowed Clark’s remarks. However, let us note that in the same period Obama comes out with his “Defense of My Patriotism” presentation which nicely dovetails with the remarks of Clark to diminish McCain’s service and which was all reported in one article by the LA Times at least. Obama seeks to improve the perception of his patriotism by denigrating the extent of McCain’s military service thus, I suggest, amounting to an attack on McCain’s patriotism in the mind of the public.</p>

<p>I still maintain the thread title is correct and that Obama is just another liberal Democrat adopting the sophisticated attack by proxy tactics of other liberal Democrats.</p>

<p>And you are still wrong.</p>

<p>Clark honored McCain’s courage and his service. He questioned whether this service included executive experience relevant to the task of being president. Obama defended his own patriotism and did not question anyone else’s. Please do not project your own confusion onto the mind of the public. And telling the same lie over and over again will not make it true.</p>

<p>Obviously, McCain is superior. I mean, look at him. He’s white, has served, was a POW, and every time he has been photographed during the national anthem, they catch him at a good moment: saluting the flag! Further more, his name doesn’t sound all terrorist-like and he’s a great guy that can talk pretty loud and we all know loudness=power.</p>

<p>Just look at how awesome Bill O’reilly is! </p>

<p>…God HELP America.</p>

<p>I’d rather have God helping America than God damning America!</p>